Slips out of 2nd when I full throttle

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14 Sep 2015 11:15 #690033 by JonGPZ750
Slips out of 2nd when I full throttle was created by JonGPZ750
Hello everyone,
Here is the low down the bike runs great when i just cruise around, but when I want to gun it I have problems :( in
2nd gear (full throttle) it slips out and puts me back into Neutral. :angry:
This only ever happens If I fully gun it 90% to 100%

Where should I look first.
FYI I have brand new clutch plates and springs, so I don't think its the clutch.

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14 Sep 2015 11:32 - 14 Sep 2015 11:33 #690035 by StreetfighterKz
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It's most likely a bent shift fork and/or worn gear dogs. Second gear sees the most force during hard acceleration and gear shifts so they tend to wear out quicker.

On most models, the engine will need removed and the cases split to replace the transmission components.

Later, Doug

1978 z1000 Streetfighter
1976 z900 Stripfighter (work in progress)
1983 Gpz750 Resto-Mod
1989 Vmax
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14 Sep 2015 11:42 #690038 by SWest
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Chances are. You can lay the bike on it's side, take off the pan and peer inside. If the dogs are rounded, you have to open the cases.
Steve
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14 Sep 2015 22:19 - 14 Sep 2015 22:33 #690116 by zukdave
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The GPz750 gears are cast with a back cut so if it's jumping out of gear it's because it's not all the way in gear
or it's just been beat hard and is just wore the f**k out.
I'd look at the shift fork or the arm's behind the mission cover.
I drag race mine and shift to second gear at 10,000 rpm's and have NEVER had it jump out of second gear
Here's a pic from my GPz trans.
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1980 KZ650 F1
ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
Dyna 2000 Ign. w/Dyna mini coil's
APE cylinder stud's and nut's.
APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.
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17 Sep 2015 16:28 #690584 by nads.com
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If spring is strong enough, you might want to consider re desighning the trans. Start by relocating the gears. Boy this is funny! Because if o hadnt done it, i would sound ridiculous! Yeah man you gotta see my upcoming video that shows how i did it. I got tired of second gear and i got tired of losing races so i fixed both problems. I missed one shift and because i got wrenched back from the torque. But second never pops out. Used to no matter how cut or how new. Can change forks or stare at them for daze, second gear does not care. It is relentless. Hence the rising quest to move it on over.

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17 Sep 2015 16:35 #690585 by nads.com
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what times do you get in a quarter

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17 Sep 2015 17:54 - 17 Sep 2015 18:04 #690597 by zukdave
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Nads I run 1/8 mile as that's what our track is bike has gone 7.34@96 mph with a 1.60 60 ft time
that's about a high 11.30 1/4 mile.
Go see my drag strip trip thread in the racing section.

I'm not nice to my tran's I beat on it hard and it's never gave me an issue.
That pic was after about 150 pass's and as you can see it looks great.
[IMG

1980 KZ650 F1
ZX750A1 motor.
Wiseco 810cc kit.
Zukiworks racing ported head.
VM 29 smooth bore's.
Dyna 2000 Ign. w/Dyna mini coil's
APE cylinder stud's and nut's.
APE valve spring's.
APE Track King clutch.
V/H KZ1000 sidewinder.
3.5x18 laced to a KZ1000 disk hub.
150/60/18 Shinko 006 Podium.
63" wheel base.
Last edit: 17 Sep 2015 18:04 by zukdave.

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