Crank Bearing Wear
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Crank Bearing Wear
09 Aug 2015 20:07 - 09 Aug 2015 20:07
First photo shows the worst three bearings. KZ750E
Second photo shows the others.
There is a nick in one of the bearings that concerns me, but otherwise the shiny marks don't seem to have suffered significant material loss.
What say ye? Replace or run?
Second photo shows the others.
There is a nick in one of the bearings that concerns me, but otherwise the shiny marks don't seem to have suffered significant material loss.
What say ye? Replace or run?


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Re: Crank Bearing Wear
09 Aug 2015 21:05 - 09 Aug 2015 21:06
I've reused before when there is wear and some light pick up but always use plastiguage to check the clearances, I take it you have marked the shells so you can re-position them?
does the crank look like? the nick in 2 is odd, has it been taken apart before? what are the big end shells like?
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does the crank look like? the nick in 2 is odd, has it been taken apart before? what are the big end shells like?
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Re: Crank Bearing Wear
09 Aug 2015 22:45
Those don't look bad at all. Some minor scoring but other wise good. If the crank journals look good your fine. You should check the clearances, plastiguage doesn't lie. And as Tyrell asked... do the rods look the same or better?
I would probably replace them if it were me, because then you would bring the bottom end back to almost new. I guess for you it would depend on what your building the bike for and how much time and money is going into it. So it's your call but I'd see no serious issue with re-using what you have shown... so long as the clearance are good ( and from the looks Id say it is).
I would probably replace them if it were me, because then you would bring the bottom end back to almost new. I guess for you it would depend on what your building the bike for and how much time and money is going into it. So it's your call but I'd see no serious issue with re-using what you have shown... so long as the clearance are good ( and from the looks Id say it is).
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Re: Crank Bearing Wear
10 Aug 2015 12:23
...but also these kz shell / forged crank bottom ends are really strong, unless starved of oil . Any out of spec wear will be apparent with the plastiguage test -better than micrometers imo.
The soft white metal bearing shells and the oil wears out, the cranks just 'float' on oil pressure with no metal/metal contact apart from cold starts.
So for me, as an amateur I'd reuse them assuming your measured clearances are within tolerance. As a pro for for a paying customer then there is little incentive to take any risks here on what is a fairly inexpensive cost compared to that of a pro full engine rebuild.
The soft white metal bearing shells and the oil wears out, the cranks just 'float' on oil pressure with no metal/metal contact apart from cold starts.
So for me, as an amateur I'd reuse them assuming your measured clearances are within tolerance. As a pro for for a paying customer then there is little incentive to take any risks here on what is a fairly inexpensive cost compared to that of a pro full engine rebuild.
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Re: Crank Bearing Wear
10 Aug 2015 14:39
Thanks for the comments guys.
I'm inclined to reuse these bearings and will do a sanity check via plastigauge. I'm fairly certain they will be fine since there isn't any significant material loss on either the bearing or crank itself. Just a little localized scuffing.
I'm inclined to reuse these bearings and will do a sanity check via plastigauge. I'm fairly certain they will be fine since there isn't any significant material loss on either the bearing or crank itself. Just a little localized scuffing.
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1981 KZ750E2
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/604901...z750e-project-thread
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www.kzrider.com/forum/faq-wiki/618026-new-owner-things-to-know
1981 KZ750E2
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/604901...z750e-project-thread
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