Valve clearance measuring
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Valve clearance measuring
17 Apr 2015 05:01 - 17 Apr 2015 11:23Attachment image.jpg not found
Hi guys
I am trying to measure my valve clearances on my kz550Spectre.
My manual says to make the measurement with the cam lobes directly opposed to the valve cups.
This works fine for all but two of the intake valves. There is absolutely no clearance when they are in that position, which leads me to Conclude that i should re-shim. However, when the valves are slightly less than 180 degrees opposed to the cups there is clearance.
I am in doubt if i should re-shim or not.
I have made a sketch to illustrate the two scenarios.
Thanks in advance
Bedt regards Peter
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Re: Valve clearance measuring
17 Apr 2015 05:35
Hmmm. That would cause me to suspect that the cam bearings are a bit worn, so that in the second situation there is a lobe at the other end of that cam pushing hard against a valve, causing the whole cam to rock just enough to close up an already too small gap. Seems like Zed1015 was making this very argument recently.
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Re: Valve clearance measuring
17 Apr 2015 05:37
Do what it says in the manual. The cam might be worn there due to lack of oil. Think about it, when the cam turns with no clearance, the oil is wiped away and the cam/lifter has no lubrication at that point. Could also be cam slop. (bearing wear). A little loose is better than too tight.
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Re: Valve clearance measuring
17 Apr 2015 06:19
Do it by the book with the lobe pointing directly away (180 degrees) from the shim.
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Re: Valve clearance measuring
17 Apr 2015 11:26
Thanks guys
I will go by the book (180 degrees)
Best regards
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I will go by the book (180 degrees)
Best regards
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Re: Valve clearance measuring
17 Apr 2015 16:09
Here are some notes and some drawings for Kz550 cam timing.
home.comcast.net/~loudgpz/GPZweb/CamsKZZ...KZZXZR550500400.html
home.comcast.net/~loudgpz/GPZweb/CamsKZZ...KZZXZR550500400.html
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Kz550 valve train warning.
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Kz550 valve train warning.
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Re: Valve clearance measuring
17 Apr 2015 23:55 - 17 Apr 2015 23:56
TexasKZ is bang on. A lobe on the opposite side of the engine is in the opposite position pushing directly down on it's valve. Should i consider changing the camshaft bearings, if this is even possible ?
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Re: Valve clearance measuring
18 Apr 2015 01:47There are no bearings to replace. the cam runs direct in the head.Ptl1987 wrote: TexasKZ is bang on. A lobe on the opposite side of the engine is in the opposite position pushing directly down on it's valve. Should i consider changing the camshaft bearings, if this is even possible ?
Just set the clearances as the manual states and leave it alone ,it will run just fine.
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Re: Valve clearance measuring
18 Apr 2015 08:16
Thanks for the clarification, zed1015. I wasn't sure if the 550 has bearings or no. Either way there has to be a tiny bit of clearance around the cam journals to allow an oil film to form and I think the op is seeing all the tiny clearances magnified by a sort of teeter-totter effect. As you say, the factory procedure is always a safe bet.
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