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Burning oil after rebuild, BAD!
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Inspect gaskets for signs of oil leak.
Replace all gaskets and o rings.
Make sure all surfaces are clean and flat
Maybe post us some pics so we can take a peek
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If the valve seat (in the head) and valve face (back of valve) are not sealed properly that can cause significant oil burning right?
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Maravinchi wrote: Sorry for the absence, hard to find time between school and work. Ya checked the plugs, from cylinder 1-4 they all seem like they were burning oil. Once I believe Ive found the problem and decide to reassemble I'm for sure planning on using all new gaskets and seals. When the bike was running there was no external oil leaks but when I took my base gasket off it seemed to be soaked in oil. That's not normal is it?...I posted a pic of it, the tear on the left happened when I took it off because it was so brittle.....In response to Tyrell, basically zero I only started and ran the bike for 5 mins, and no I didn't use mineral oil just the standard weight oil (synthetic). Ya your right I cross hatched with a Diy kit, for insurance reasons I'll just have a machine shop re do it. When I measured, the valve guides were still well with in spec and the seals are new viton seals. My compression figures are as follows: cyl. 1: 157psi cyl. 2: 156 psi cyl. 3: 150psi cyl. 4: 154psi
If the valve seat (in the head) and valve face (back of valve) are not sealed properly that can cause significant oil burning right?
IMHO, 5 minutes is not nearly enough time to determine is smoking is a permanent problem. You need to actually ride it around for at least 15 minutes just to get it warmed up. Even a tiny amount of oil will generate a huge amount of smoke, so you have to make sure any incidental oil is burned off before you can tell if it's being replenished by a bad seal, rings or whatever.
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A leak at the valve seat/face will cause loss of compression. Your numbers seem even and consistent. The Viton valve seals on the stem at the top of the guides would be the source of oil burning. This would typically show as a puff at start up or after idle. It's easy to cut or tear a seal during installation. However, it would also be limited to that cylinder. I don't think valves are the source of your problem.If the valve seat (in the head) and valve face (back of valve) are not sealed properly that can cause significant oil burning right?
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My go to for gaskets is Cometic brand.
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a new base gasket on a bike only run for 5 min. should not be that brittle. That's caused by heat. Being soaked with oil would make the gasket softer like wet paper. It's not normal, but I also doubt it's the source of your oil burning. A bad base gasket would cause oil leaks, but not oil burning.When the bike was running there was no external oil leaks but when I took my base gasket off it seemed to be soaked in oil. That's not normal is it?...I posted a pic of it, the tear on the left happened when I took it off because it was so brittle
Exhaust Smoke is oil is getting into your combustion chamber. Oil is 1) getting past the rings 2)past the valve (stem) seals or 3)leaking between the head and cylinder (head gasket). It's possible to have oil vented into the airbox and sucked in thru the carbs, but you would have noticed oil on the carb boots. Since it's happening in all cylinders, I would double check the ring installation. What brand rings did you use, and did they come with orientation instructions?
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MDZ1rider wrote:
a new base gasket on a bike only run for 5 min. should not be that brittle. That's caused by heat. Being soaked with oil would make the gasket softer like wet paper. It's not normal, but I also doubt it's the source of your oil burning. A bad base gasket would cause oil leaks, but not oil burning.When the bike was running there was no external oil leaks but when I took my base gasket off it seemed to be soaked in oil. That's not normal is it?...I posted a pic of it, the tear on the left happened when I took it off because it was so brittle
Exhaust Smoke is oil is getting into your combustion chamber. Oil is 1) getting past the rings 2)past the valve (stem) seals or 3)leaking between the head and cylinder (head gasket). It's possible to have oil vented into the airbox and sucked in thru the carbs, but you would have noticed oil on the carb boots. Since it's happening in all cylinders, I would double check the ring installation. What brand rings did you use, and did they come with orientation instructions?
I suspect new rings used on out of spec barrels. If it's not that, the valve guide seals may not have been seated on the guides. If not they will flop around and be of no use.
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5 minutes doesn't even get the engine up to working temperature, if the bores have been oiled it will smoke on startup.
Use a non synthetic oil, avoid idling the motor and ride it and give the motor some load You want to break in the rings for a good seal without glazing the bore. Your numbers all look good.
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Of course this means pulling the cam gear, head and cylinders off and using all new gaskets. .... Possibly no damage to the Pistons and bore but probably a new ring set.
It is really the only way to know.
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