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26 Jun 2014 02:03 - 26 Jun 2014 02:05 #638036 by z900750sei
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I'm rebuilding Z1000H. I have new piston rings, new gaskets, new valve stem seals. Valve stem, Cylinders and pistons are in tolerances. The biggest bore after honing is 70,07mm. Smallest piston is 69,931mm. Compression is from 12,2-12,9bar. I have a lot of white smoke and I burned 0,5L of oil in 80km. There is oil in pipes. Piston rings are bought on USA ebay and produced by HY piston rings.. I installed second ring with dot and notch pointing up. Is it possible that this ring should be pointing down because it looks like ring is pumping oil into head. Head is leak proof it is tested with gasoline. This is the same engine as on KZ1000G and pistons have mark KZT00H. I forgot to look direction of old second ring but mark N is on the same side as notch. If someone have same problem please help me.

regards Simon

Kawa Z1, Kawa Z1A, Kawa H1D 500, Rickman CR 900, Benelli 750 sei 1976, Kawa KZ 1300 1979, Kawa Z1000H fuel injection, Kawa Z1000J replica of ELR, Moto Martin KJ 1000, Kawa KE 175, Bimota Mantra 2001, Benelli tornado tre 900 2004, Kawa ZZR 1400 2008 and project Kawasta.
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30 Jun 2014 21:54 #638543 by weales
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G'day Simon,

I'm surprised that none of the engine gurus in our group haven't lit up at this one already! I'm not an expert on this sort of thing but I'm a bit confused about the white smoke - this is not usually indicative of burning oil - this is usually blue-ish in colour from my experience with engines with worn pistons/rings. White smoke usually indicates a serious problem with cooling system fluid being drawn into the combiustion chamber and burnt as a result of a warped head, cracked head/blown headgasket or combination of all three. Best not to use the bike until you get to the bottom of this! :ohmy:

If it does turn out to be an oil burning problem one thing to consider - during the rebuild were the rings "gapped" before installation? (ie placed in the intended cylinder and the gap measured to check if it is in spec.) Also the rings need to be placed on the piston so that the gaps do not line up vertically. If they do line up then the oil can easily be drawn along the piston through the lined-up gaps and sucked into the combustion chamber and get burnt.

Hope this helps, Biill.

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1968 Norton P11A Desert Sled
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78 Z1-R (resto)
91 Zephyr 750
73 Mach IV (Resto)
78 Z1-R
78 Z1-R (stolen)
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72 Mach III

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01 Jul 2014 04:21 - 01 Jul 2014 04:46 #638554 by 650ed
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weales wrote: G'day Simon,

I'm surprised that none of the engine gurus in our group haven't lit up at this one already! I'm not an expert on this sort of thing but I'm a bit confused about the white smoke - this is not usually indicative of burning oil - this is usually blue-ish in colour from my experience with engines with worn pistons/rings. White smoke usually indicates a serious problem with cooling system fluid being drawn into the combiustion chamber and burnt as a result of a warped head, cracked head/blown headgasket or combination of all three. Best not to use the bike until you get to the bottom of this! :ohmy: .....


These motorcycles are air cooled - there is no fluid in the cooling system. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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01 Jul 2014 12:27 - 01 Jul 2014 12:28 #638589 by bountyhunter
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z900750sei wrote: I'm rebuilding Z1000H. I have new piston rings, new gaskets, new valve stem seals. Valve stem, Cylinders and pistons are in tolerances. The biggest bore after honing is 70,07mm. Smallest piston is 69,931mm. Compression is from 12,2-12,9bar. I have a lot of white smoke and I burned 0,5L of oil in 80km. There is oil in pipes.

Broken ring? That is a ton of oil use.

1979 KZ-750 Twin
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