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kz750 twin pistons/rings
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Maybe using rope or air pressure inside the cylinder to keep the valves closed during the process?
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Theoretically possible: I read you have to stuff some kind of twine (thin rope) in through the spark plug hole to provide something inside so the valves are supported physically when the piston is at TDC.Patton wrote: Is it feasible -- or even possible -- to replace the valve stem seals on a KZ750 twin without removing the cylinder head?
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I don't know if they make a compressor for the valve spring that can be used only from the top side for the 750 twin. I haven't seen one.
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Not to be a downer, but if your engine needs seals, it's almost guaranteed the valves need to at least be lapped to get them to seal again. I think replacing seals alone is a waste of time and money that will have to be repeated when you pull the head to fix the real problem: low compression.Schmeck wrote: Nevermind bout the bolts . Going to try the string trick to change out my valves seals.
Unless the engine has 60k miles on it or suffered severe abuse, I doubt the compression loss is the rings. It's the valve seats. As I pointed out before, when you have leaking seals, the oil runs down and bakes onto the valve faces and valve seats. Over time, they don't close properly and you gradually lose compression.
If you want to fix the bike, I would:
1) Measur valve clearances and record shim sizes. If necessary, swap the thinnest shim around to get a clearance reading so you can calculate the shim needed.
2) Pull the head and have it fixed at a machine shop. It's only four valves. They charged me only $200 complete to do mine and I live in the bay Area.
3) Understand shims are not available: the shop will need to machine the valve ends to the proper height.
IMHO, changing the valve seals alone is not going to fix your bike.
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bountyhunter wrote:
Not to be a downer, but if your engine needs seals, it's almost guaranteed the valves need to at least be lapped to get them to seal again. I think replacing seals alone is a waste of time and money that will have to be repeated when you pull the head to fix the real problem: low compression.Schmeck wrote: Nevermind bout the bolts . Going to try the string trick to change out my valves seals.
Unless the engine has 60k miles on it or suffered severe abuse, I doubt the compression loss is the rings. It's the valve seats. As I pointed out before, when you have leaking seals, the oil runs down and bakes onto the valve faces and valve seats. Over time, they don't close properly and you gradually lose compression.
If you want to fix the bike, I would:
1) Measur valve clearances and record shim sizes. If necessary, swap the thinnest shim around to get a clearance reading so you can calculate the shim needed.
2) Pull the head and have it fixed at a machine shop. It's only four valves. They charged me only $200 complete to do mine and I live in the bay Area.
3) Understand shims are not available: the shop will need to machine the valve ends to the proper height.
IMHO, changing the valve seals alone is not going to fix your bike.
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