Carbs pop when key is turned off

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14 Apr 2013 23:28 #582360 by Matteson
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So the timing is tit's. Carbs are clean. Petcock is flowing fuel to both inlets. Valves are in clearance. The bike starts and isn't firing on all four. I turn her off and the 3 exhaust pipe is cool compared to the others. When I take the plug wire off the plug and lean it on the motor it arcs. This is with the motor off and just turning the key to on. Then every now and then when I flip the key to off it pops through the carbs. This is weird. The high tension lead may be bad or the coil? But wouldn't both 2 and 3 cylinders be cold if the coil was bad?(kz900)

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15 Apr 2013 07:10 #582420 by Matteson
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This never happen to anyone? Any ideas?

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15 Apr 2013 09:33 #582436 by kzz1king
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What ignition are you using?
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15 Apr 2013 17:20 - 15 Apr 2013 17:24 #582502 by Powerstroke_fan
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If using a dyna s igniton it will "pop" when shutting the key off with the bike not running. I believe its just releasing the power stored in the coils. But as far as the dead cylinder it could be a bad or unplugged plug wire. I have seen them work out of a dyna coil if not pushed in properly. It could be bad plug. Or could be worse like lack of compression because of valve adjustment or other motor damage.

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15 Apr 2013 17:45 #582517 by donthaveakawman
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not sure what your carbs look like but with mine I would look for a needle/slide not shutting and spark/boom right in the fuel bowl. from what I understand the 900 would have the non throttle slides so it is over my head.

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15 Apr 2013 21:40 #582556 by Matteson
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Dyna ignition. I heard the dyna will pop sometimes because it is releasing it's energy or something. Plugs are brand new but the wires and coils are what I had before. The coils aren't kawi. I believe they are gs1000. They are light tan.

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15 Apr 2013 22:07 - 15 Apr 2013 22:11 #582560 by kzz1king
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Are the coils the right ohms for that ignition? I would try running the motor or cranking it over with a known good plug on number 3 lead and see if it sparks continuously. You need to confirm no spark. Hopefully just an electrical issue. Is the non firing cylinder getting wet with fuel?

Wayne

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16 Apr 2013 07:18 #582628 by Matteson
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I have a good spark. I checked the float level and it was fine. I cleared all passages in carb again. The plug is brand new. That one cylinder is not responding/ Would it do this if the coils are the wrong the ohms?

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16 Apr 2013 08:38 #582636 by Powerstroke_fan
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I am not sure about running diffrent coils. But i know you can run other than 3ohm. but i know with a dyna s igniton and dyna coils, Your not suspose to run supression caps. Like kzz1king said, is the plug wet after removal? what all did you mess with? did it run before you messed with it? Are you sure its only dead on one cyclinder and not two? If so could be crossed plug wire.

1980 kz1000B4 LTD- 1327cc 9-1 comp
Ported J model head
Psp-3x cams
RS 36s
Welded MK11 crank
Back-cut MK11 trans
MTC 2 stage lock up
Stretched 4-6 over running Hayabusa rear rim with 190 rear tire
Complete frame brace kit installed
And Much Much more- SOLD

2014- ZX14R all stock for now

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16 Apr 2013 09:08 #582641 by Matteson
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when I bought the ignition Z1 said I could run with other coil, but to get the most bang for my buck I would need 3 ohm coils. The exhaust on 3 is cool to touch while the others are hot when fired up. I did the coil mod recently. But last night I hard wired again to see if it was the mod somehow?.. No difference. So now it's back on the coil relay. New Dyna s ignition. But this problem had occured before the ignition. See, previously I had thought it was the condensers that was causing this. But with the new ignition it hasn't fixed it. How do I tell if it's a suppression cap? That one cap is different than the rest.

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16 Apr 2013 09:32 #582642 by Matteson
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The dead cylinder has a Nichiwa LB05F cap on it. The others have ngk and are running fine. Is that gonna effect it. Surely not. That's not a suppression cap is it? And neither are the plugs.

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16 Apr 2013 10:14 #582647 by 893cv
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You still have a dirty carb. Find a shop with an ultrasonic cleaner and have them clean it.

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