what sprockets and chain? kz1000 with R6 swinger

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29 Jan 2013 19:40 #569823 by chonus
hey guys, I'm fairly new to the whole "chain drive" concept. ive only had beltys. anyway, my question pertains mostly to the sizes. I know ill need some sort of offset but ill play with that later. I wanna keep somewhat factory gearing maybe a few less teeth for highway riding. same with chains... Im assuming theres a superior brand? o-ring or non? any help would be excellent!! thanks dudes

-Dave

'82 kz305 lil bob
'82 kz1000 streetfighter project
'80 kz750/4 LTD
'02 kx125

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29 Jan 2013 20:39 #569832 by 650ed
Pick up an o-ring or x-ring chain. D.I.D. makes a quality chain, and there are a couple other good brands. Keep it lubed with quality chain lube every 3 - 400 miles; I use Maxim Chain Wax and it works very well. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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30 Jan 2013 12:44 - 30 Jan 2013 13:03 #569948 by 531blackbanshee
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Dave,
any of the japanese brands did,ek,rk are quality chains 520 is the narrowest 525/530 is also a popular pitch chain to use on these conversions.

i have used 520 pitch ever since i put a 190/200 mm rear on my bike and have no regrets.

it seems to be easier to find offset sprockets in 525/530.

i have my rear spockets custom made by

pmpsprockets.com/

i custom fab my own offset front sprockets.

hth,

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
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30 Jan 2013 19:08 #569988 by chonus
sweet ya i was just up at the dealership to see what was on new stuff. 525 seems to be the way to go. leon, why do you have custom rear sprockets made? just for looks? or do they serve a purpose?

-Dave

'82 kz305 lil bob
'82 kz1000 streetfighter project
'80 kz750/4 LTD
'02 kx125

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30 Jan 2013 19:34 #569989 by 650ed
I'm surprised at the lightweight (520 & 525) chains for a KZ1000. My KZ650 uses a 530 chain. Ed


Chain Chart
www.moto-chains.com/site/898528/page/578189#.UQmgE1fjBXs

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31 Jan 2013 11:08 #570078 by 531blackbanshee
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dave,
i have a 2000 r1 rear wheel and it seems there are not many guys that run 38 tooth rear sprockets on r1's .
pmpsprockets.com/ will custom build me one for about the same cost as an off the shelf one and have it to me quick.

chain technology has advanced in 520/525/530 chains a BUNCH since the 80's.
that is the reason ed's 650 is sold new with a 530 and bmw's s1000rr is sold new with a 525.

Manufacturer BMW Motorrad
Also called K46
Production Since 2009
Class Sport bike
Engine 999 cc (61.0 cu in) inline-4
Bore / Stroke 80.0 mm × 49.7 mm (3.15 in × 1.96 in)
Compression ratio 13.0:1
Power 144 kW (193 hp) @ 13,000 rpm (claimed)[1]
133.6 kW (179.2 hp) @ 13,250 rpm (rear wheel)[2]
Torque 112 N·m (83 lbf·ft) @ 9,750 rpm (claimed)
105.8 N·m (78.0 lbf·ft) @ 10,250 rpm[2]
Transmission 6-speed, chain drive, optional electronic traction control
Brakes Front: Dual 320 mm discs, Brembo 4-piston fixed callipers
Rear: Single 220 mm disc, single-piston floating caliper
Disengageable ABS
Tires Front: 120/70 ZR 17
Rear: 190/55 ZR 17
Rake, Trail 23.9° / 95.9 mm (3.78 in)
Wheelbase 1,432 mm (56.4 in)
Dimensions L 2,056 mm (80.9 in)
W 826 mm (32.5 in)
H 1,138 mm (44.8 in)
Seat height 820 mm (32 in)
Weight 183 kg (400 lb) (claimed)[3] (dry)
204 kg (450 lb) (claimed)
207.7 kg (458 lb)[2] (wet)
Fuel capacity 17.5 L (3.8 imp gal; 4.6 US gal)
Fuel consumption 6.13 L/100 km (46.1 mpg-imp; 38.4 mpg-US)[2]

if i 525 wasn't up to the job of holding 180 rwhp with a 190mm rear tire hookin it to the pavemement, bmw would not be selling it on a new street bike.

thats my .02,
leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
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31 Jan 2013 12:41 #570084 by chonus
I found a cool lookin gold/black chain from did that I think would accentuate the 636 front nicely. I guess I have to put some sprockets on it and figure out what length I need . Are rear sprockets universal? Or do I need an r6 specific sprocket?

-Dave

'82 kz305 lil bob
'82 kz1000 streetfighter project
'80 kz750/4 LTD
'02 kx125

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31 Jan 2013 12:46 - 31 Jan 2013 12:47 #570086 by 531blackbanshee
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color co-ordinated chain :evil: .

you need the specific sprocket to fit whatever wheel that you are going to use.
some of them will interchange.
but,if you do not know for sure make sure to get the one advertised to fit your wheel.

putting the sprockets on and measuring is the best way to find the chain length that you need.

string is your friend :lol: ,

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0
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31 Jan 2013 12:49 - 31 Jan 2013 12:50 #570087 by 650ed
Regarding the BMW K46 chains - That is amazing. They must have also made significant improvements in the sprocket alloy too or those probably wouldn't last as long as the chain on a bike with that much power. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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31 Jan 2013 21:22 #570153 by chonus
so apparently the r6s uses a 520 chain, so I have to get one made if i wanna run 525... another side question, are the drive sprockets somewhat universal? or will I have to get a kz1000 specific sprocket for 525 chain.

-Dave

'82 kz305 lil bob
'82 kz1000 streetfighter project
'80 kz750/4 LTD
'02 kx125

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01 Feb 2013 10:50 #570227 by 531blackbanshee
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i run 520 chain on my z1r no sweat.

some engines have the same spline on the output shaft as the kz but if you don't know for sure if it fits you are better off buying something that is advertised to fit your bike.

you are going to need a off set countershaft sprocket.

so you really need to get a rear sprocket to fit your wheel in the tooth count you want,and bolt it all up and then using string/laser/straight edge etc.... you need to measure to see what offset you are going to need on your countershaft sprocket.

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

billybiltit.blogspot.com/

www.kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/325862-triple-tree-custom-work

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/294594-frame-bracing?limitstart=0

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05 Feb 2013 16:01 #570899 by chonus
so whats the best way to measure what offset I need?

-Dave

'82 kz305 lil bob
'82 kz1000 streetfighter project
'80 kz750/4 LTD
'02 kx125

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