Mac vs. VH ?

kawsakiman wrote:

btw, anyone know where the websight is for the x-pipe?

www.xpipe.org/motorcycle.html

Vance and Hines is well worth the money!! all the way better chrome easy to keep polished replaceable and optional sized baffles. normal megaphone or sidewinder.

i have hade two vane hines 4-1 header on my bike with out any problems. great sound. since i am going to switch to a sidewinder pipe here soon i am thinking of going with a star raceing header. a guy i ride with has one on his coustom z1r and i realy like it. the spider pipe they have is supposed to up the horsepower 15-20. i dont care all that much for the mac. to much money for what it is.

BUT I WOULD HAVE TO SAY IF I COULD HAVE ANY PIPE FOR MY KZ IT WOULD BE A OLDER MURRY 4-1. GOOD LUCK FINDING ONE.

Not sure if this is an ok question or not - I am looking ot replace my 4-2 exhaust eventually in favor of a 4-1. Where can you buy a Mac header in the states? The only exhaust I seem to come acrossed is the V&H 4-1 and I like to have options when I go and buy something...

Jardine kawasaki 4 into 2 pipe

Hey DoubleDub, when i punch in your bike on denniskirk.com it has 9 options for exhausts, I'll even drop you a link:

www.denniskirk.com/jsp/product_catalog/m...ue&_requestid=217807

But I would shop around, you can usually find stuff a little cheaper (try ebay or other shops) then denniskirk sells it. I will say I've never had a problem with the stuff I've bought from them and they have good tech support.

Hope it helps (I'm still undecided on which exhaust to go with :S )-Brian

Hey thanks! I have a hard time "googling" for parts for my bike and the few places I knew online didn't have much other than the V&H exhaust or the 4-4 exhaust on Z1Enterprises site.

No problem, I'm glad my endless hours of surfing the net and flipping through catalogs can be put to some good use

Hey would someone mind posting a pic of the vance & hines exhaust on their 650? I emailed Jeff about the V&H's and he still speaks highly of it, says its more a problem of over chroming the pipes....

doubledub
staraceing, vance hines,kerker, mac,jardin exhaust all make 4-1 pipes for your bike.
there are a lot more companys overseas that make 4-1 for ur bike also.

I know I'm weighing in late on the V & H quality issue brought up. Wireman speaks the truth in the quality problems with the V & H product I purchased for the 76KZ900LTD. I don't fault Jeff or Z1, but did give him a heads up. Brand new pipes, didn't fit to the frame properly. Headers same issue. Also some minor surface rust where the 4 join into one - but it's in an area that's out of view. I also have V & H longshots on the cruiser - and love em. Normally V&H is a quality product - so this puzzled me. If I had it to do over again, I'd go with the Kerkers.

the only thing that i have noticed that vance hine has changed on the 4-1 header is the mounting tab on the megaphone. the old tab didnt stand up very much and ran about 4 inches along the pipe. the new tab is slim and stands about 3-4 inches tall. i actulay had to make a small bracket to mount it up like it was before.it took only a few mins. it wanst a big issue but for the money you should get what you paid for.

as far ass the vance hines sidewinder pipes go you got to do a lot more to get it to work. you will have peg and brake pedel clearance issues and you will need a mounting bracket in the back. but on the other hand the sidewinder is over a hunderd bucks cheaper.

Here's a pic showing the bracket wireman came up with to accomodate the Vance and Hines mis-alignment out of the box. You can see that it's off 2-3 inches from the exhaust mount hole. The bracket we made works great, but as rattler said - "but for the money you should get what you paid for."