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30 Jun 2012 18:20 #532839 by faffi
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The plate is set to maximum advance, which should make it hard to start but run OK-ish at higher rpm normally. Whether the timing is correct or not can only be determined by a strobe light.

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30 Jun 2012 18:23 #532840 by Surfdude_007
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Yeah, that was the next step.

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30 Jun 2012 20:40 #532863 by Motor Head
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That picture actually shows the Ignition plate rotated With the direction or crankshaft travel, this is to Retard the timing. It maybe that it is adjusted as far as the slots would go, and still be to far advanced. Use a timing light to find out where the timing is set. Do you have a manual for the bike/ bikes?

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30 Jun 2012 20:43 #532864 by LarryC
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If the airbox is still on the bike, pull the top off, pull the filter out, put the lid back on and see what it does.

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30 Jun 2012 22:58 #532904 by Surfdude_007
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Yes, I have the manual for the bike. I will try all suggestions tomorrow. Thank you all.

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30 Jun 2012 23:13 - 30 Jun 2012 23:17 #532910 by Patton
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When timing, be sure to align the F mark with the case mark -- NOT the T mark.

Ignore the T mark when setting the ignition timing.

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01 Jul 2012 05:37 #532990 by faffi
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Motor Head wrote: That picture actually shows the Ignition plate rotated With the direction or crankshaft travel, this is to Retard the timing. It maybe that it is adjusted as far as the slots would go, and still be to far advanced. Use a timing light to find out where the timing is set. Do you have a manual for the bike/ bikes?


My bad :blush: - of course it is! If timing should be set closer to full advance, the severely retarded timing will rob the engine of power at revs above 4000 rpm quite substantially.

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23 Jul 2012 16:31 #537932 by Surfdude_007
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Seems like the timing marks(T and F) are to the right of the case mark. and the ignition is moved all the way clockwise. Any suggestions? I might have seen something similar on another thread but couldn't find it. Thanks.

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