after each ride, wont start without a ritual of fi

Are battery fluids at proper levels?

Perhaps the battery is being slowly discharged (for whatever reason) while riding, and is requiring several hours to self-recoup, but until then remains relatively weak, whereby power to the coils is diminished while cranking over with the electric starter.

If bike has a kick starter, would try using it instead of the electric starter.

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That's one of the weird symptoms my bike developed when I was using paper fuel filters. Sometimes opening the gas cap seemed to help. Once the fuel started flowing it was fine for awhile, but after parked, while still hot, it acted like it was out of gas (because the carbs were empty, or too low).

loudhvx wrote: That's one of the weird symptoms my bike developed when I was using paper fuel filters. Sometimes opening the gas cap seemed to help. Once the fuel started flowing it was fine for awhile, but after parked, while still hot, it acted like it was out of gas (because the carbs were empty, or too low).

See that...you never know what simple thing can cause a problem. Often those little things get over looked. Good Catch

indianajames wrote: ...fuel filter and air filter are new....

Have long enjoyed successful use of this type filter:




Am thinking there's no paper or glue inside that might possibly deteriorate from exposure to "ethanol" gasoline.

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thanks guys, i dont have much time after work , but weekend is here! i have checked spark at plugs ,that is why i think its not getting gas. my fuel filter was matched with metal can type that was on there. gonna pull tank and do a flow check. thanks for video loud hvx! one more time with old battery . any way the valves could do this? also the 14 to 14.5 , is that across batt terminals or negative to hot side of coils ? thanks again and ill let everyone know what finally fixes this , no matter how embarrassing .

Check the battery voltage. Then check the voltage where the yellow/red wires go to the coils under the gas tank.

I always check the voltage going into the kill switch and the voltage coming out of the coil switch. Roy

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When is the last time you did a valve adjustment? if your valves where a little tight as the bike gets hot metal expands making them a lot tighter, causing your valves to hang open.

I'll be watching to see what fixes your problem. I have the same bike and it's developed the same symptoms. I was going to clean the carbs and check valve clearances anyway so I started doing that. I was thinking that either the fuel level in the bowls or the valve clearances might be the problem. I haven't checked the fuel levels yet, but I just found out I have 3 valves with zero clearance so I'm hoping that when I correct that the starting issue will go away. Good luck and keep us informed.

Thanks,

Ken

ok ,ckecked battery , still takes a charge , but only reads 12.2 volts at coils . cleaned connections to coils , no change. purchased new battery, starts immediately !#&@% bastard! dont have have a clue why a battery tests good , takes a charge and wont start a bike. thanks to every one for the help! now after this i have a clutch problem but ill start a new thread.

The batteries will just wear out. It might have good voltage but the cranking amps are down. Glad you got that sorted out. Roy

indianajames wrote: ok ,ckecked battery , still takes a charge , but only reads 12.2 volts at coils . cleaned connections to coils , no change. purchased new battery, starts immediately !#&@% bastard! dont have have a clue why a battery tests good , takes a charge and wont start a bike. thanks to every one for the help! now after this i have a clutch problem but ill start a new thread.

A proper "load test" should show true condition of the battery.

In order to obtain a proper load test, the battery should first be serviced to assure correct fluid levels and trickle charged (overnight) to attain its best charged condition.

Then, without any further use, the battery is ready for a load test.

The guy doing the testing at AutoZone will presumably perform the test correctly on a load testing machine that's properly functioning.

Usually a good idea to have a new battery tested at the same visit so the load test results may be compared with each other.

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