What's the ONE best internal engine mod?

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03 Mar 2011 19:36 #434826 by Kawboy74
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I would keep it simple and degree the cams so all is accurate in the top end.
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03 Mar 2011 20:13 #434839 by gearheadmm
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03 Mar 2011 20:14 #434841 by gearheadmm
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04 Mar 2011 09:32 #434936 by nads.com
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Jeff.Saunders wrote:

You need to think about how you ride the bike.

How many miles are on the engine? My answer will change significantly based on this answer...

Each modification can bring benefit, but in some cases cons too. If this were a commuter bike you'd get a different answer than if it's ridden hard.

Most big bore kits generate extra heat, and require higher octane fuel (more expensive). If you commute in hotter temperatures I'd tell you to steer clear of a 10.25:1 piston kit.

If you plan on just riding on the weekends and having some fun, the big-bore kit is good. I'd probably start with HD cylinder studs and the piston kit. You then have the option in the future to rework the head - either porting it, or just dropping some mild street cams in.

If you are tearing the engine down completely, I would start with the fundamentals - a new Tsubaki cam chain and HD studs - possibly new idler sprockets, cam chain guide, etc. They are more important than the big-bore kit.


What's up with people saying Tsubaki "heavy duty" cam chain?
Isn't that new soobaaky just the same chain that's already in there? And if they do stretch then what's ta keep the new one from stretching? I'ts just that everyone says replace chain replace chain, I'm wondering if they really know why or if it's another mooo thing. One cow turns right ohter cows come too. And I'm that funky looking cow that noone will play with. :woohoo:

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04 Mar 2011 09:40 #434939 by nads.com
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larrycavan wrote:

Nelson wrote:

Ok here's another one for you guys to argue about :laugh:

While I've got my 78 KZ1000 apart, I may just decide to splurge and buy ONE internal engine hop up item with my tax refund.

What do you think is the most cost effective? The most bang for the buck? Cams? Pistons? Porting? I can only pick ONE so don't give me a long list... :P

The bike has BS34s, Dyna ignition, and Sidewinder drag pipe. All else is stock.

The Dyna is the really basic model that's completely inside the right engine cover. The coils are stock. I've always been a bit skeptical that performance coils really do much, but feel free to tell my why I'm wrong.

So which ONE would you pick?


Smash the BS34's with a great big hammer and buy some real carbs :laugh: .....there, that ought to get a rise out of some people this morning :woohoo:

Bore it to 1075. Anything you add after that is icing on the cake ;)[/quot

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04 Mar 2011 10:25 - 04 Mar 2011 10:26 #434950 by kawsakiman
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coil mod ? :laugh:

i would go for new cams. these motors are all about the cams.
recomendations will different for different riding styles.
best bang for the buck.

someday i will be able to afford my kz habit.
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04 Mar 2011 11:00 #434958 by 531blackbanshee
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i'm with kawasakiman cams is the best bang for the buck,imho :huh: .

not 435's plummen,geez! :silly:

cams matched to whatever you got.

hard to pick one thing because it all works together,but a set of upgraded cams even on a stock motor is noticeable.

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04 Mar 2011 11:08 #434959 by 9am53
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I put a set of J cams in my LTD for free as they were throwaways and it made a big difference, good bang for buck :)

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04 Mar 2011 15:53 #435021 by kawsakiman
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PLUMMEN wrote:

kawsakiman wrote:

coil mod ? :laugh:

i would go for new cams. these motors are all about the cams.
recomendations will different for different riding styles.
best bang for the buck.

thats right every stock 900 needs a set of 435s to reach its full potential! :woohoo:


no, not 435's.
you can get the small cams like that girly man omr runs.

someday i will be able to afford my kz habit.

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04 Mar 2011 16:01 - 04 Mar 2011 16:15 #435027 by larrycavan
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You can't put enough cam against a stock piston to justify the cost..... unless they're free or dam close to it. :)

If you find some FREE Andrews 1X....then OK

What lift does the stock head sign off at? HINT... it's more than a 1X lifts the valves ;)
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04 Mar 2011 16:20 - 04 Mar 2011 16:23 #435034 by Stu Pidasole
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ok, the ONE engine mod.....z2 cams, valve springs, port head, bore motor, piston kit, dyna 2000! you should notice a lil difference. and its the cheapest hp mod to bat. :)
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04 Mar 2011 16:31 #435037 by saxjonz
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Heck, whatever you do to bump something up something else needs to be replaced to manage the new part effectively, I say leave it stock.
Nelson wrote:

Wow this one is popular! Thanks. It will be mostly a ride on the weekends type of bike. Sometimes pretty hot here in Sac, but I won't be sitting in stop and go traffic a lot. The ODO says 36,000 but who can say for sure if that's correct. I plan to do all the needed stuff to make it reliable as top priority, then perhaps the one mod as well.

Yes I think the cam chain, studs and rollers is a good idea.


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