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05 Jan 2011 14:43 - 13 Feb 2012 19:11 #420223 by KZ250LTD
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05 Jan 2011 15:10 #420230 by PLUMMEN
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waste more power opening them,possibly harder on seats and valves

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05 Jan 2011 15:42 #420235 by otakar
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No proble at all, your red line will be a bit higher.

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
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05 Jan 2011 16:10 #420236 by racer54
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Been running them for last 20 yrs. or so without any problems. I figured they would last longer on a stock motor. I put them in figuring to use .400 lift cams years ago but never did.

1980 LTD (changed over the years), 1979 LTD (being rebuilt), 1977 KZ turbo and various KZ's in various states of build. KLX110

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05 Jan 2011 16:12 #420238 by PLUMMEN
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if rest of the motor is still stock raising redline wont do anything other abuse motor.
stiff springs are harder to open which requires more power,not a really measurable amount i suppose.
the stiffer springs being harder to open would also mean they slam shut harder which is transfered to related valvetrain parts and seats.
putting stiff clutch springs in makes the clutch harder to pull in and is harder on related parts,what makes you think stiff valve springs react any differantly?
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05 Jan 2011 17:03 #420249 by Motor Head
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The extra friction will cause an increase in oil temp also.
Are you always at the top of your Tach, or have a trans that jumps out of gear? The extra spring pressure would help in a over rev situation. Maybe get new stock springs installed at the correct height, or check those old ones and shim them back to the correct setting.

1982 KZ1000LTD K2 Vance & Hines 4-1 ACCEL COILS Added Vetter fairing & Bags. FOX Racing rear Shocks, Braced Swing-arm, Fork Brace, Progressive Fork Springs RT Gold Emulators, APE Valve Springs, 1166 Big Bore kit, RS34's, GPZ cams.
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05 Jan 2011 17:23 - 05 Jan 2011 17:27 #420254 by larrycavan
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A spring gives back the same amount of energy required to compress it.

I wouldn't worry for a nano second about increased oil temperatures from the valve springs.

As for valve seat issues with that setup....ain't going to happen ;) I don't think most people really know just how freaking hard those KZ seats get after 30 years :laugh: Cut them sometime...you'll see what I'm talking about.

I go through carbide blades all the time installing over size valves. In fact I just ordered some more today.....
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05 Jan 2011 17:50 - 13 Feb 2012 19:10 #420260 by KZ250LTD
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05 Jan 2011 19:15 #420270 by PLUMMEN
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check the guides,measure your stock springs .if stock springs check out ok reuse em B)

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05 Jan 2011 19:30 - 05 Jan 2011 19:31 #420273 by testarossa
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larrycavan wrote:

As for valve seat issues with that setup....ain't going to happen ;) I don't think most people really know just how freaking hard those KZ seats get after 30 years :laugh: Cut them sometime...you'll see what I'm talking about.

I go through carbide blades all the time installing over size valves. In fact I just ordered some more today.....


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05 Jan 2011 19:47 #420276 by kawsakiman
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i replace them on every head i remove.
better then 30+ year old worn out springs.
been running them for 4 years on the 1100 with a stock motor with no problems.

someday i will be able to afford my kz habit.

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05 Jan 2011 21:14 #420295 by nads.com
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larrycavan wrote:

A spring gives back the same amount of energy required to compress it.

I wouldn't worry for a nano second about increased oil temperatures from the valve springs.

As for valve seat issues with that setup....ain't going to happen ;) I don't think most people really know just how freaking hard those KZ seats get after 30 years :laugh: Cut them sometime...you'll see what I'm talking about.

I go through carbide blades all the time installing over size valves. In fact I just ordered some more today.....


So the ol carbide cutting tools are soft aay :woohoo: I'm a stone man myself, especially now. I suggest taking the carbide to a metallurgist for composition conformation. Then start the almighty lawsuit rolling. :woohoo: I never seen carbide give so easy but I have not messed with it much. I'm surprised that they would need replacing all the time.

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