piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?

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18 Dec 2010 08:13 #417572 by kawi810
what is the ideal clearence for forged wiseco pistons(k810).just reringing my 810 and after hone i have about .004" is this too much should i have another cylinder bored out?

original owner of a 1984 gpz 750
1985 turbo 750 stock, being restored.
1984 gpz 750 with 810 cc wiesco's megacycle cams(471-10) 34 mm flatslides v&h pipe ported head dyna ignition. bottom end, crank case from turbo 750 and sprockets.

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18 Dec 2010 10:22 #417587 by APE Jay
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.0015 to .002". .004" is way loose.

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18 Dec 2010 11:42 #417613 by bountyhunter
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Is the .004" at the bottom or top of the piston? They are tapered from top to bottom, widest at the bottom.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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18 Dec 2010 15:41 #417641 by kawi810
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yea it`s at the bottom of the skirt. too lose ok

original owner of a 1984 gpz 750
1985 turbo 750 stock, being restored.
1984 gpz 750 with 810 cc wiesco's megacycle cams(471-10) 34 mm flatslides v&h pipe ported head dyna ignition. bottom end, crank case from turbo 750 and sprockets.

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18 Dec 2010 15:47 #417642 by kawi810
Replied by kawi810 on topic piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?
so a rebore with about .002" piston to cylinder clearance .is this average for forged pistons?

original owner of a 1984 gpz 750
1985 turbo 750 stock, being restored.
1984 gpz 750 with 810 cc wiesco's megacycle cams(471-10) 34 mm flatslides v&h pipe ported head dyna ignition. bottom end, crank case from turbo 750 and sprockets.

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18 Dec 2010 23:02 #417672 by APE Jay
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It depends on how the piston is made and what it is made from. my answer was for a Wiseco

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19 Dec 2010 07:50 #417708 by kawi810
Replied by kawi810 on topic piston to cylinder clearence cast vs. forged?
are cast pistons set up tighter then forged?

original owner of a 1984 gpz 750
1985 turbo 750 stock, being restored.
1984 gpz 750 with 810 cc wiesco's megacycle cams(471-10) 34 mm flatslides v&h pipe ported head dyna ignition. bottom end, crank case from turbo 750 and sprockets.

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19 Dec 2010 14:42 #417760 by APE Jay
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Yes. However, Wiseco uses a high silicon 4032 material and can run almost as tight as a cast piston.

2618 material used by most others has to run with more clearance.

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20 Dec 2010 15:39 #417928 by kawi810
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thanks for the info .i have been told for years that you have to run wisecos loose because they expand alot . just trying to seperate fact from urban legend. if anybody else has experiance with running to tight or to loose p/c post it please.

original owner of a 1984 gpz 750
1985 turbo 750 stock, being restored.
1984 gpz 750 with 810 cc wiesco's megacycle cams(471-10) 34 mm flatslides v&h pipe ported head dyna ignition. bottom end, crank case from turbo 750 and sprockets.

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20 Dec 2010 15:59 #417934 by timebomb33
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on my street motors i use the wiseco spec's on my race motors i go about .001 looser just because they don't get as much chance to warm up fully

1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
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20 Dec 2010 21:55 #417994 by APE Jay
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kawi810 wrote:

thanks for the info .i have been told for years that you have to run wisecos loose because they expand alot . just trying to seperate fact from urban legend. if anybody else has experiance with running to tight or to loose p/c post it please.




The opposite is true with Wiseco.

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21 Dec 2010 11:50 #418067 by steell
APE Jay wrote:

kawi810 wrote:

thanks for the info .i have been told for years that you have to run wisecos loose because they expand alot . just trying to seperate fact from urban legend. if anybody else has experiance with running to tight or to loose p/c post it please.




The opposite is true with Wiseco.


Says the man who has probably sold and installed more Wiseco motorcycle kits than anyone else in this country.

KD9JUR

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