Ceramic header coatings and performance.
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03 Oct 2010 06:46 #403681
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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The Kerker "K" series pipe on my bike has been long discontinued. I love the pipe for looks and performance. two years I had it sandblasted and than I used VHT to coat it. Needless to say that stayed pristine about 1/2 hour before the paint started to bubble and come off. Yes and I did it EXACTLY the way I was instructed by the manufacturer over the phone. VHT of any brand is SHIT. I have been contemplating of getting the header ceramic coated inside and out, so i started to research it on the web. Besides just looks, corrosion protection, and durability, there are significant performance benefits. Especially if you also do it on the inside of the pipes. Because the gases stay hotter inside the pipe the exhaust velocity increases and that increases exhaust scavenging. I have found a local place here in the Chicago area that will do it for about $100, and they do all the prep work. They have it in. silver, flat black, and dark gray. I remember a few years ago WG was contemplating doing it for about $350 for the headers. (I wonder how long that would have taken him to do?) I am planning on removing my header as soon as the riding season is over after Thanks Giving, and taking it in. I have the capability of doing small items like pistons and heads but not something as big as an exhaust header. Anyone here have ceramic headers?
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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03 Oct 2010 06:51 #403683
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1978 KZ1000 A2 Click--->Build Thread
2004 ZX-10R
2007 Harley Sportster 1200
2020 Harley Street Glide Special
Angola, IN
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I don't have one yet, but have been contemplating ceramic coatings for my exhaust as well. I look forward with keen interest to see what becomes of your findings.
1978 KZ1000 A2 Click--->Build Thread
2004 ZX-10R
2007 Harley Sportster 1200
2020 Harley Street Glide Special
Angola, IN
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03 Oct 2010 07:03 #403687
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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Considering the fact that I paid $65 just to get it blasted before I used the VHT on it, I think that the price I was quoted to get tit coated including the prep work should be worth it. The three cans of VHT and VHT primer cost me about $25 to begin with. I am looking forward to having it done. If I like it, I have a bunch of other pipes I will have done. One of the bike shop owners around here has a big block 83 GPz1500 done by these guys about 15 years ago and it still looks like new.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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03 Oct 2010 07:12 #403689
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For $100 is sounds like a hell of a deal.
Did you coat the inside of the pipe before you painted it with VHT?
Did you coat the inside of the pipe before you painted it with VHT?
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03 Oct 2010 07:16 #403691
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1978 KZ1000 A2 Click--->Build Thread
2004 ZX-10R
2007 Harley Sportster 1200
2020 Harley Street Glide Special
Angola, IN
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$100 is a super deal. It seems that all the shops around here want twice that, but admittedly I haven't searched that hard yet.
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2007 Harley Sportster 1200
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03 Oct 2010 07:46 #403701
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1974 CB750
1975 CB750
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1977 KZ1000
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I will be curious to see what you find out too, i have been considering getting the pipes on my cb750 done. i have seen them and they looked great but never had any done.
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03 Oct 2010 08:25 - 03 Oct 2010 08:26 #403710
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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The ones that I saw on the GPz1500 that were done 15 years ago look beautiful. i plan on going down there tomorrow and checking them out.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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03 Oct 2010 08:47 #403716
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I painted the inside of the headers on my V and H before I installed them with ceramic caliper paint.Has greatly helped with the bluing problem associated with a non double wall pipe.I have no idea how ceramic does as far as looks are concerned except it looks ok on my calipers.bj
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03 Oct 2010 09:08 #403729
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Still recovering,some days are better than others.
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i had a vance&hines header coated at the powder coater with this black header coating a few years back,gave it to solomrus here in omaha to run on his bike.
the coating didnt seem like it worked that much better than paint to me anyway ,scratched really easy
the coating didnt seem like it worked that much better than paint to me anyway ,scratched really easy
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03 Oct 2010 09:54 #403758
by porchev914
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1978 KZ1000 A2A with 08'Speed Triple SSSA and '06 GSXR1000 front end
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I had ceramic coated headers on my El Camino, and they were awesome! The biggest suprise was that the usual chips and scratches in the coating on the bottom of the collector did not happen as easily, and when the coating eventualy was breached, it still doesn't rust like a painted header would. For $100 I'd jump all over it :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:
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03 Oct 2010 10:08 #403764
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Yep, ceramic coating is definately the hot ticket in the automotive crowd, always wondered why more bike guys havn't been doing it. I'd just make sure it's a pipe you wanna keep for a while.
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03 Oct 2010 10:15 - 03 Oct 2010 10:16 #403766
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1976 Kz900
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1978 Z1r
1982 Kz1100 A2
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