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Cylinder Blocks, Sleeves, Pistons and Heat
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A 1327 in a stock block would have thicker sleeves than a stock KZ1000. Do you know the OD of the sleeves in your 1260?
3.2400"
So to rephrase the question: What would run cooler - a 1260 kit in a big block or a 1260 kit in a stock cylinder?
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Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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a 900 block bored to 1015 will not give you a problem. but a better avenue is get a 1015 block and bore to 1075 which leaves you more meat in the sleeves vs 900 going to 1015. i have kz1000 blocks in nice shape no broken fins etc if interested. you may need to clearance a 900 upper case a little to get block on. some cases you do some you don't email me if you need a 1015 block at b.flood@myactv.netMark1122 - Where are you measuring that temperature? is that oil temperature in the pan? or cylinder block temperature?
I am just interested because I am planning to go from stock 904 to 1015 which I believe is as big as I can go on stock liner and was wondering how hot that will run compared to what you guys are talking about (maxing out
a sleeve size)
I believe the liner goes down to .060" per side.
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APE Jay wrote:
A 1327 in a stock block would have thicker sleeves than a stock KZ1000. Do you know the OD of the sleeves in your 1260?
3.2400"
So to rephrase the question: What would run cooler - a 1260 kit in a big block or a 1260 kit in a stock cylinder?
the KZ block has deeper fins. therefore "I" think it would run cooler. my 1200 runs cooler than my 1327.
anyone else?
76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
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jerk ? hell from my experiance with that guy id a$$hole is a better description of him! :woohoo:Funny thing - there was some guy named "Wireman" making comments in my old post. What ever happened to that guy? He seemed like kind of a jerk... :whistle: :laugh:
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the passages between cylinder 1-2 and 3-4 on the stock block is why they run cooler,bigblock is solid79MKII wrote:
APE Jay wrote:
A 1327 in a stock block would have thicker sleeves than a stock KZ1000. Do you know the OD of the sleeves in your 1260?
3.2400"
So to rephrase the question: What would run cooler - a 1260 kit in a big block or a 1260 kit in a stock cylinder?
the KZ block has deeper fins. therefore "I" think it would run cooler. my 1200 runs cooler than my 1327.
anyone else?
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79MKII wrote:
jerk ? hell from my experiance with that guy id a$$hole is a better description of him! :woohoo:Funny thing - there was some guy named "Wireman" making comments in my old post. What ever happened to that guy? He seemed like kind of a jerk... :whistle: :laugh:
Yea Plummen, you're right. I trust your judgement on things like this. YOU are a much better man than that wireman character ever was. Believe me, I know - I'm a very good judge of character myself!
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Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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mark1122 wrote:
the passages between cylinder 1-2 and 3-4 on the stock block is why they run cooler,bigblock is solid79MKII wrote:
APE Jay wrote:
A 1327 in a stock block would have thicker sleeves than a stock KZ1000. Do you know the OD of the sleeves in your 1260?
3.2400"
So to rephrase the question: What would run cooler - a 1260 kit in a big block or a 1260 kit in a stock cylinder?
the KZ block has deeper fins. therefore "I" think it would run cooler. my 1200 runs cooler than my 1327.
anyone else?
Wow, that seems like it would really make cylinders 2 and 3 run hot with no air getting in there. I was looking for an excuse to change my set up but I think I might look into a larger oil cooler instead of a big block. :lol: Too bad, I used an NOS Derale oil cooler that looks really cool but is kind of small. Would probably be good for the stock '78 KZ.
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Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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put a turbo on it and be done with it! :laugh:
Oh yea! A small cc engine would be fine with a little boost. I'd love to have a turbo some day. That's my ultimate dream bike. I really gave it some serious thought before this last rebuild. One of these days...
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Current: 79 KZ1000 A3 MKII, 78 KZ1000 A2, 78 KZ1000 Z1-R, 78 KZ650 SR, 80 KE175
Former: 03 KLX400SR, 99 ZRX1000, 82 KZ750 LTD, 80 KZ1000 A4 MKII, 80 KZ1000 LTD, 78 KZ1000 A2, 74 H-2 750 Triple, 78 KL250
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