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11 Jul 2010 22:49 #381888 by asevans
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alright. my wife thinks im crazy but i just like messing with my KZ. plugs inconsistent so im checking things mentioned by people on here that know more than me.

valve clearances arent to spec.

heres my numbers.

intake 1-4 .007,.007,0 clearance,.003

exhaust 1-4 .005,.008,.007,.005

spec is .002-.004

only one is in spec. intake #4

ive never done this before. i was reading the manual and it doesnt seem hard.

whats up with the valve that doesnt have any clearance. seems strange. i checked it then turned it and checked it again to make sure.

do i need to buy the special tool? the valve lifter tool. also were do i get shims at? do the dealers still sell them?

i appreciate any help.

thanx

1976 kz900 Mostly stock
1978 Z1-R Project

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11 Jul 2010 22:59 - 11 Jul 2010 23:00 #381889 by bountyhunter
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If it's a KZ900, I believe shims are available. It it was a 750 twin, no shims are available.

Are you sure about the .002 - .004" spec range? The reason I ask is that's the spec for my 750 twin, but I thought the four cyclinder bikes had wider specs because the internals get hotter. I could be wrong but I thought they were supposed to be wider than that.

If the shims are on top, you need the compressor tool to be able to change shims without pulling the cams. If the shims are underneath, tool won't help (the cams have to come off).

1979 KZ-750 Twin
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11 Jul 2010 23:11 #381894 by asevans
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yes it is the kz900.

the clymers says .002-.004

the shims are on top. ill have to order the tool. i looked on Z1 and they have everything i need. should of looked on there before i asked. oh well. just have to pay shipping twice because ill have to get the tool, remove old shims then order new shims. oh well.

1976 kz900 Mostly stock
1978 Z1-R Project

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12 Jul 2010 04:47 - 12 Jul 2010 05:10 #381904 by PLUMMEN
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make the tools yourself.the one is basically a bent screwdriver,the other is a wedge ground into a scrap piece of metal to hold the bucket down yeah i know its only $7.00,but i have a habit of sitting things down only to have them disapear into the abyss a.k.a the barn.hell ive lost track of complete cars and bikes for years at a time! :S :woohoo:

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12 Jul 2010 04:51 #381905 by BSKZ650
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you can buy the shim kit which as a lot of sizes, and my 2 cents, get the OEM tool, seems to work the best for me

77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
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12 Jul 2010 04:57 #381908 by PLUMMEN
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wheres your sense of adventure? :woohoo:

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12 Jul 2010 05:02 #381909 by PLUMMEN
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asevans wrote:

alright. my wife thinks im crazy but i just like messing with my KZ. plugs inconsistent so im checking things mentioned by people on here that know more than me.

valve clearances arent to spec.

heres my numbers.

intake 1-4 .007,.007,0 clearance,.003

exhaust 1-4 .005,.008,.007,.005

spec is .002-.004

only one is in spec. intake #4

ive never done this before. i was reading the manual and it doesnt seem hard.

whats up with the valve that doesnt have any clearance. seems strange. i checked it then turned it and checked it again to make sure.

do i need to buy the special tool? the valve lifter tool. also were do i get shims at? do the dealers still sell them?

i appreciate any help.

thanx

try swapping the really tight shim for a really loose one from another valve and see what that does for both of them

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12 Jul 2010 05:23 #381912 by otakar
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All the shims are available from Z1E.
www.z1enterprises.com/catalog.aspx?pid=KPEN1B

74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000

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12 Jul 2010 07:34 - 12 Jul 2010 07:37 #381935 by Patton
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May learn about using the MotionPro tool by typing batwing in the "Search Forum" box and click on Go.

Good Fortune! :)


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12 Jul 2010 09:51 #381971 by asevans
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thanx for all the advice. i just ordered the OEM tool. i need to keep it as simple as possible. last time i screwed around in here i busted a cam cap bolt.
thanx

1976 kz900 Mostly stock
1978 Z1-R Project

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12 Jul 2010 14:39 #382041 by BSKZ650
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PLUMMEN wrote:

wheres your sense of adventure? :woohoo:


This is from the guy who looked like he was 8 mths pregnant, after he had a adventure:ohmy:

77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
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12 Jul 2010 15:28 #382050 by bountyhunter
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asevans wrote:

thanx for all the advice. i just ordered the OEM tool. i need to keep it as simple as possible. last time i screwed around in here i busted a cam cap bolt.
thanx

The trick is to carefully measure and record all clearances. Take all the shims out (keep them in order) and that lets you calculate the shim you need for each. In most cases, you can swap shims around and don't have to buy a shim for every valve out of spec.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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