Aluminum Cam Plugs on KZ1000...sealant advice?

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16 Jun 2010 17:31 #376166 by madmatt1
I'm replacing the cam plugs in my 1000 with a set
of aluminum ones. I got all the surfaces nice and clean
and they seem to fit nice and flush & snug. Just looking for some advice on sealing them, more specifically what type of sealant and where to apply it.

1977 KZ1000 LTD
1977 KZ1000A

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16 Jun 2010 18:01 #376171 by beefsquasher
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I use Permatex Ultra Black. High temo, high torque, and very resistant to oil. Never had 'em leak. I also spread a little on the top of the plugs at the gaps where they meet with the cam cover gasket surface.

-Dave

1977 KZ1000 Mutt - 1075, Kenny Harmon Cams .400", RS34, Kerker, Dyna S

1997 Honda XR250R
1977 Yamaha XS360
1972 BMW R60/5

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16 Jun 2010 18:48 #376187 by madmatt1
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Good deal, I have a brand new tube of that in my toolbox.
I did however, speak far too soon about them fitting nice and flush...the first two I tested out on the RH side of the engine fit like a dream, but then I went back out and sat the two on the LH side, yeah....not such a dream. I suppose I'll have to take some material off the top of them until they are where they should be. After spending $40 on them, I don't want to give up that easy. It's not just the plugs either, I flip flopped all of them and its just the LH side that is the issue. A coincidence? Bad luck?

1977 KZ1000 LTD
1977 KZ1000A

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16 Jun 2010 21:01 #376240 by beefsquasher
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I had the same problem. I tapped 'em down with a hammer.

-Dave

1977 KZ1000 Mutt - 1075, Kenny Harmon Cams .400", RS34, Kerker, Dyna S

1997 Honda XR250R
1977 Yamaha XS360
1972 BMW R60/5

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16 Jun 2010 22:44 #376258 by MDawnz1
As far as a sealant,,,
ANYTHING but an RTV ,,,
That stuff has NO business anywhere near a bike.
Yamabond5 or something like that would be my choice.

PS. for the stock rubber ones ,I put them in backwards ,,
ie. the flat "outside" with the flange on the inside.
Just make sure they don't touch the end of your cams, NO leaks ever and the last forever.

1974 Z1a, still 903

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16 Jun 2010 23:09 #376261 by bountyhunter
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beefsquasher wrote:

I use Permatex Ultra Black. High temo, high torque, and very resistant to oil.
-Dave

me too. Not permanenent like 3-bond, but still seals really well.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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17 Jun 2010 05:04 #376283 by beefsquasher
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Please explain why RTV has no business near a bike. I would like to know what I am doing wrong b/c I use it all the time on all my bikes. What am I missing?

-Dave

1977 KZ1000 Mutt - 1075, Kenny Harmon Cams .400", RS34, Kerker, Dyna S

1997 Honda XR250R
1977 Yamaha XS360
1972 BMW R60/5

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17 Jun 2010 05:11 #376284 by Old Man Rock
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Originally used Permatex High temp... Then on a tip from others, went with the 3M case sealer.... The sealer is a little thinner in thickness, smooths out for a tighter seal...

Same time, No leaks from either....;)

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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17 Jun 2010 06:56 #376312 by larrycavan
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I prefer the case sealer to install them.

A thin film of RTV on top of them when installing the valve cover gasket can help you save the gasket next time the valve cover is removed.

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17 Jun 2010 10:07 #376334 by Patton
beefsquasher wrote:

Please explain why RTV has no business near a bike. I would like to know what I am doing wrong b/c I use it all the time on all my bikes. What am I missing?

-Dave


Just be sure it doesn't squeeze out toward the inside where it could fall off and clog an oil passage or otherwise interfere with engine internals.

Here's a beaut. :X

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17 Jun 2010 10:56 #376340 by Kawickrice
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Patton wrote:

beefsquasher wrote:

Please explain why RTV has no business near a bike. I would like to know what I am doing wrong b/c I use it all the time on all my bikes. What am I missing?

-Dave


Just be sure it doesn't squeeze out toward the inside where it could fall off and clog an oil passage or otherwise interfere with engine internals.

Here's a beaut. :X

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That looks like oldkawmans bike :woohoo: :woohoo:

73 Kawasaki Z1
07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
80 Indian Moped (My American Iron)
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17 Jun 2010 10:59 #376342 by bountyhunter
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beefsquasher wrote:

Please explain why RTV has no business near a bike. I would like to know what I am doing wrong b/c I use it all the time on all my bikes. What am I missing?

-Dave

Most sealer products are some kind of RTV (silicone rubber derivative) , car makers have been using it for decades. Gasoline destroys it, but it stands up very well to oil type fluids and water.

1979 KZ-750 Twin

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