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09 Mar 2010 18:23 #352320
by polkat
Sanding valve shims? was created by polkat
KZ750H3.
I know that the book says not to try grinding valve shims, as they may crack, etc. However, I wonder if you could safely use some fine grit paper with oil and a prefectly flat surface to take maybe .05mm off? Anyone ever try this?
I know that the book says not to try grinding valve shims, as they may crack, etc. However, I wonder if you could safely use some fine grit paper with oil and a prefectly flat surface to take maybe .05mm off? Anyone ever try this?
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09 Mar 2010 18:26 #352322
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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These shims are Nitited if you remove anything you will remove the hardened surface and they will cup and destroy your cam.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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09 Mar 2010 18:30 #352323
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1977 KZ650B1
-810cc
-Cavanaugh Racing Head
-Mikuni RS34's
-GPR Muffler
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If you can Nitride them once you're done then fill your boots.
1977 KZ650B1
-810cc
-Cavanaugh Racing Head
-Mikuni RS34's
-GPR Muffler
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09 Mar 2010 18:38 #352325
by otakar
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic Sanding valve shims?
It is even worse with the 13mm under bucket shims because they are sitting on a 6mm stem instead being fully supported and will have a tendency to shatter.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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09 Mar 2010 18:54 #352329
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Is nitride an expensive process? I can't afford a new selection just to get two or three shims, and I can't find the right size used ones.
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09 Mar 2010 18:58 #352330
by otakar
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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When i get my rifle barrels done it costs me about $60 a unit. It is the process not the price of the liquid Nitrogen
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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09 Mar 2010 19:08 #352332
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i m not trying to be a tool, but you cant do a rebuild looking to cut corners on every aspect....you can maybe cut a corner here or there, but the bottom line is that no matter what CC you ride, you are going to have to drop some cash.....everyone has financial constraints and they vary from member to member....trying to take the cheap route on every aspect is a recipe for disaster....the economy sucks right now and jobs are scarce....maybe putting some stuff off for a while might be wise choice.....no malice or ill will intended, just looking at this from a different angle.....
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09 Mar 2010 19:10 #352333
by otakar
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic Sanding valve shims?
New shims are only $5 each.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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09 Mar 2010 19:13 #352335
by Old Man Rock
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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Oh KZ God why...
I mean truly, shims are only $6 each... I'm with Keith and others on this one, no way would I go this route no matter what you do to them to harden them up... Just not worth losing an engine over...
Same time, your bike, do what you wish...
I mean truly, shims are only $6 each... I'm with Keith and others on this one, no way would I go this route no matter what you do to them to harden them up... Just not worth losing an engine over...
Same time, your bike, do what you wish...
1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter
Phoenix, Az
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09 Mar 2010 19:21 #352341
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74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
Replied by otakar on topic Sanding valve shims?
To be exact, they are $4.62 each at Z1E.
74 Z1-A stock
76 KZ-900 Totaly stock vice MAC pipe
77 KZ-1000A stock
78 Z1-R 100%MINT 500 original Mi.
78 Z1-R Yoshi 1103 kit stage 1 cams Yoshi pipe. Etc
79 KZ-1300 (1400)
80 KZ-1300
81 Scratch built GPz1150R
82 KZ1000
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09 Mar 2010 19:23 - 09 Mar 2010 19:25 #352343
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Sanding won't work I used a belt sander and nada. I wore half a grinding wheel off and nada. Did I buy a new one? HECK no. After 2 hours i got almost a tho off! And it looked like crap! Course i used it, you kidding me? Course it worked! But this is mee and i dont even dot my eyes anymore! It's more in the way people look at you, i mean u don't have to tell them why theres a hole in your head. OH yeah, burned my fingers too! A whole lotta fun! FACT of life: Service dept. employees get REAL crabby when u ask for a thin shim. So bring two to smooth things over. Bring em the lucky one! :laugh:
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09 Mar 2010 19:30 #352344
by Patton
1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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FSM should instruct about "tipping" the valve stem, which adds clearance by "shortening" length of the valve stem.
This would be most useful in cases where the thinnest shim isn't thin enough to provide the needed clearance.
Good Fortune!
This would be most useful in cases where the thinnest shim isn't thin enough to provide the needed clearance.
Good Fortune!
1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD
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