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25 Apr 2009 20:34 #285262 by kaw74z1
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Hi, I had the trans door off my motor today and the boss where the shift shaft slides into has a stress crack.

I have had this to happen before on a 77 kz1000 now my MKII has one. I have never had this happen on a kz900 case.

Is this common with the 1000 cases? I had the crank welded and the block bored with a main bearing cap support and a billet 2nd gear last year and all was good to go.I ran it with the stock top end and over the winter went with 1105 kit with cams and now this.

Do any of you guys know of a way to fix it without tearing the motor back down?

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25 Apr 2009 20:44 #285264 by MFolks
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Is this on the outer engine case cover or inside by the countershaft sprocket? I'd image any good welding shop could repair it.

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25 Apr 2009 20:56 #285268 by kaw74z1
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It's on the inside behind the trans door on the engine case itself :(

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25 Apr 2009 21:37 #285275 by timebomb33
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sounds like those set of cases must have broken a drive chain at one time is it just a crack or is actually broken. because if it's just cracked you should be ale to get it welded right in the bike just becareful with dirt and slag.

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25 Apr 2009 21:43 #285277 by kaw74z1
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It's just a crack where the shift shaft slides in.

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25 Apr 2009 21:55 - 25 Apr 2009 21:56 #285282 by timebomb33
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try getting somebody to weld it up i've had that happen before my self a few times in fact when i've broken a chain drag racing happens some times.it not a precsion piece it is just more or less a guide anyway.

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25 Apr 2009 22:04 #285285 by kaw74z1
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Thanks I will do that. You think if I had of put a brass bushing over it before it cracked it woulda helped any? Also is their 2 different sizes of over shift bushings for the MKII"s

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25 Apr 2009 23:09 #285305 by timebomb33
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no and all that over shift bushing does is prevent the shifter mechanism from trying to rotate around when it's air shifted.

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25 Apr 2009 23:14 #285307 by kaw74z1
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Ok, I have a air shifter with a O.S. bushing.. Was thinking maybe I had the wrong bushing and caused it to crack. Hey tell me where the bushing go's please

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27 Apr 2009 19:31 #285843 by kaw74z1
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I found a welding shop and they told me MAYBE :unsure: but to bring the bike to the shop and they would take a look. 100 mile one way trip so I hope it's a good return trip.:) What do you guys Think tig or mig would be the best for this repair?

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27 Apr 2009 20:25 #285863 by irishwill
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tig for sure if you can get at it...but mig will do....be careful to put the ground as close to the weld as possible or you run the risk of arcing across the bearings...also unplg any electronic ignition pieces...good luck

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27 Apr 2009 21:38 #285889 by timebomb33
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as ben said make sure that you unhook your ground strap and just to be on the safe side disable all your electronics so's they won't get fried and that is very good advice that anybody planning on getting any welding done attach the ground as close as humanly possible electrical current going thru roller bearings causes a condition called false brinneling basicly what that is are flat spots that are formedon the races and on the roller it self.

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