Clutch wear questions.

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24 Mar 2009 16:36 - 24 Mar 2009 16:37 #274998 by bountyhunter
Replied by bountyhunter on topic Clutch wear questions.
Little B wrote:

Anyone think I need to be concerned with the clutch push rod?

bountyhunter wrote:

Mine is 2.9 - 3.1mm nominal and 2.7mm service limit.

If yours is near the limit, chuck the plates. Plate sets are cheap.


Wow, where do you get them cheap? I just called the dealership and they want 16.10 per friction plate. Over $112! :dry:
:blink:

I got mine from JC Whitney way back when. Check the usuals like:

Z1 Enterprises

babbitts online.com

They will ALWAYS beat the dealer prices by a mile.

1979 KZ-750 Twin
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24 Mar 2009 16:45 #275001 by 650ed
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EBC is an aftermarket company that makes parts. They are probably ok, but here's where you can get genuine Kawasaki clutch friction plates for a good price. According to Kawasaki.com you need 7 plates - part number 13088-030. Take a look at eBay Item number: 200112889274. He's selling the real deal for $7.95 each. I bought a set from him last year and they were genuine Kawasaki plates - not aftermarket, so I assume he's still telling the truth. By the way, whichever plates you buy be sure to coat them well with motor oil before installing so don't burn or get grabby when you first start the bike. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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24 Mar 2009 16:57 #275005 by Little B
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Thanks again guys. I'll try using the scotch pad on the steel plates...they aren't burnt or anything...hell, they even have most of the little 'dot' indentations still.

MFolks wrote:

If you have the money and time while your clutch is apart, I think if it was me, I'd get the ball bearing cluch pusher sold at ape race parts,dyno man, or kz zone. It's supposed to be superior to what came stock on these bikes.


Do you know in what way it is superior? I'm a stock bike kind of guy as far as how I use it. Commuting & some touring. Is there any benefit to the needle bearing pusher other than the "eliminates risk of welding clutch push rod to the mushroom when pulling the clutch in at high speed"? It seems like that would be more of a concern for a racer or high performance type rider.

1981 KZ750-H2 LTD

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24 Mar 2009 17:09 #275012 by MFolks
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It's supposedly easier on the hand with a softer squeeze for dis-engagement.

1982 GPZ1100 B2
General Dynamics/Convair 1983-1993
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24 Mar 2009 17:21 #275018 by Little B
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Thank you Ed...I just ordered 7 from the fella you recommended.

MFolks wrote:

It's supposedly easier on the hand with a softer squeeze for dis-engagement.


Has anyone made the changeover to the needle bearing pusher and noticed this? Would you do the change again or did you find it wasn't worth the money?

1981 KZ750-H2 LTD

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24 Mar 2009 23:20 #275135 by timebomb33
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i use the needle bearing pusher in all my drag or hot-rod bikes because i have experienced the welded push rod-ball bearing- pusher problem twice as a matter of fact i still have one of them mounted to my wall of shame. i ride very hard and if you pull the clutch in at a high rate of speed this will happen to you also but if your just a street cruiser kind of guy i woudn't worry about it, as far as it being an easier pull i don't know about that because i only use the cluth for leaving and gearing down in the lower gears so i'd normally wouldn't worry about it, i think having a new or really well lubed cable would be more important for that.

1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
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24 Mar 2009 23:23 #275136 by timebomb33
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if you do by new fiber plates soak them in the same type of oil that you are using in your bike for at least 24 hours ahead of using them for the first time the plates will soak up the oil and you will be able to properly adjust your clutch adjuster also there is less chance of burning them up on inital use.

1973 z1 2-1974z1-a,2-1975z1-b dragbikes1015cc+1393cc, 1977kz1000,1978kz1000,1981kz1000j, 1997 zx-11, 2000 z12r,1428turbo nitrous pro-mod and a shit load of parts thats all for now leader sask.,CANADA
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25 Mar 2009 03:19 #275165 by Patton
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MFolks wrote:

If you have the money and time while your clutch is apart, I think if it was me, I'd get the ball bearing cluch pusher sold at ape race parts,dyno man, or kz zone. It's supposed to be superior to what came stock on these bikes.


Also available from Z1E (as are plates, etc.)

Click here > Z1E

Good Luck! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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25 Mar 2009 10:48 #275290 by Little B
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Thanks again guys.

Can anyone comment on my clutch push rod question? My thought is that as long as it moves smoothly through the hole and can push on the ball bearing, the groove in it shouldn't matter. Am I correct in that assumption?

1981 KZ750-H2 LTD

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25 Mar 2009 11:42 #275296 by Patton
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Little B wrote:

...clutch push rod has a pretty good indentation on the clutch side....
Can anyone comment on my clutch push rod question? My thought is that as long as it moves smoothly through the hole and can push on the ball bearing, the groove in it shouldn't matter. Am I correct in that assumption?


Perhaps a pic could be posted to convey a better idea of the pretty good indentation and the groove.

If needed, a new push rod is available from Z1 Enterprises

Good Luck! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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25 Mar 2009 20:23 #275445 by Little B
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Patton wrote:

Perhaps a pic could be posted to convey a better idea of the pretty good indentation and the groove.


Great Idea Patton. :)

Here ya go, the first three show the grove on the clutch side:







This is corrosion on the other side but no groves or anything...


1981 KZ750-H2 LTD

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26 Mar 2009 08:39 #275504 by Patton
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Thanks for the pics.

The ends of the push rod look okay.

I would clean it up with a wire brush and wet-sand as needed to remove any rusty area. Then coat it with engine oil and keep on using it.

Good Luck! :)

1973 Z1
KZ900 LTD

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