2nd. Gear

Has any one here ever removed the 2nd. gear shift detent balls, so you can drop a Z into second gear while sitting still.

I have had them out on a 650 engine when I rebuilt it - did put them back in when I assembled it again though.

If you're asking how to do it I can post some pics when I get home from work.

OnkelB wrote:

I have had them out on a 650 engine when I rebuilt it - did put them back in when I assembled it again though.

If you're asking how to do it I can post some pics when I get home from work.

I am talking about leaving them out, All together. If you could help with that it would be great.

On the 650s the neutral finder balls sit inside the 4th gear on the main (output) shaft, I believe the do on the bigger bikes too.

Once the mainshaft is out you remove the outer bearing race and the circlip at the end of the shaft, then pull off the needle roller bearing, two spacers and the first gear.

To remove the fourth gear (which is sitting right behind the first gear) you hold the mainshaft vertical by the ball bearing at the opposite end with the fourth gear pointing up - spin the shaft so the neutral finder balls are slung out of the recesses in the shaft and lift the fourth gear off.

Reassemble the main shaft, just leave the balls out, that's it.

Below is a pic of the mainshaft, fourth gear and balls removed. Let me know if you want more info/pics, I have a spare transmission in a box.

i just took mine out to test the trany.
why would u want to leave them out? that would cause it to be harder to find neutral. when u stop and bring the shifter up from 1st it could easily slip into 3rd.
what is the benifit u are looking for?:silly:

mark1122 wrote:

i just took mine out to test the trany.
why would u want to leave them out? that would cause it to be harder to find neutral. when u stop and bring the shifter up from 1st it could easily slip into 3rd.
what is the benifit u are looking for?:silly:

second gear while sitting still. Doesn't everybody take off in second once in a while?

kzz1p wrote:

mark1122 wrote:

i just took mine out to test the trany.
why would u want to leave them out? that would cause it to be harder to find neutral. when u stop and bring the shifter up from 1st it could easily slip into 3rd.
what is the benifit u are looking for?:silly:

second gear while sitting still. Doesn't everybody take off in second once in a while?

only by accident when i m not paying attention and i go...wtf?...and then i realize what a tard i am......:laugh:

Nope. Thats why i just sold my close ratio trany. 1st gear was toooo tall. it would stall if i launched at 8000rpm.:blush:

Well, I guess some of us just can't get it right? Some us dumbies might want to sit in a bleach box and heat the tire in second or third.

kzz1p wrote:

Well, I guess some of us just can't get it right? Some us dumbies might want to sit in a bleach box and heat the tire in second or third.

pardon my ignorance, i thought we were talking street riding......my bad......:blush:

Umm Yeah,

Mac

keith1 wrote:

kzz1p wrote:

Well, I guess some of us just can't get it right? Some us dumbies might want to sit in a bleach box and heat the tire in second or third.

pardon my ignorance, i thought we were talking street riding......my bad......:blush:

BOTH, I don't know the differance............