2nd. Gear

kzz1p wrote:

keith1 wrote:

kzz1p wrote:

Well, I guess some of us just can't get it right? Some us dumbies might want to sit in a bleach box and heat the tire in second or third.

pardon my ignorance, i thought we were talking street riding......my bad......:blush:

BOTH, I don't know the differance............

I guess I have to ask the same question too. Why would you ever want to take off in second????????? You know how hard it is sometimes get it in when you don't the have balls to do it?:huh:
I mean get it in neutral.:laugh:
Different strokes for different folks I guess.

saxjonz wrote:

I guess I have to ask the same question too. Why would you ever want to take off in second????????? You know how hard it is sometimes get it in when you don't the have balls to do it?:huh:
I mean get it in neutral.:laugh:
Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I have seen it done in Z's before, they had no problems. I ask alot of questions that are different then most, it exspans my line of thinking. Like they say, it takes all kinds to make the world go round. Saxjonz I would ask you, do you ever like to drop it in second and pop the clutch. You know, just a good long burn-out down the street. Thats what I call dyno tuning............

all off my bikes have the detent balls removed because the bike has to be rolling in order to get it into second so i take it out as a precaution just in case the bike stalls for what ever reason or i have to shut it down in the burnout box most tracks wont let you go ahead then back up in to the burnout box so it is easier for me .the only bike that still has them in is my street bike and it only because i forgot which trannie i put in until it was too late [first test ride after motor install] or else it would be done as well.

kzz1p wrote:

saxjonz wrote:

I guess I have to ask the same question too. Why would you ever want to take off in second????????? You know how hard it is sometimes get it in when you don't the have balls to do it?:huh:
I mean get it in neutral.:laugh:
Different strokes for different folks I guess.

I have seen it done in Z's before, they had no problems. I ask alot of questions that are different then most, it exspans my line of thinking. Like they say, it takes all kinds to make the world go round. Saxjonz I would ask you, do you ever like to drop it in second and pop the clutch. You know, just a good long burn-out down the street. Thats what I call dyno tuning............

na,i just lock the front brakes and start shifting till it starts to slide!:laugh:

timebomb33 wrote:

all off my bikes have the detent balls removed because the bike has to be rolling in order to get it into second so i take it out as a precaution just in case the bike stalls for what ever reason or i have to shut it down in the burnout box most tracks wont let you go ahead then back up in to the burnout box so it is easier for me .the only bike that still has them in is my street bike and it only because i forgot which trannie i put in until it was too late [first test ride after motor install] or else it would be done as well.

Tim, are there any negatives for a street ride? do u find it missing neutral and giong to 3rd much?

no it has never been an issue as for it going from second to third it would have to rotate the shift drum way to far for that to happen it was just a safty feature put in at the factory just like rim locks where supposed to keep the massive torque that these bikes make stock:silly: from turning the tire on the rim.

Well thats good to know .You learn something new every day.
John, thanks for bringing this up. Who knew? sertanly not me.
maybe i'll have to try it. i have them out right now anyways. my trany is spread all over my bench.and my input shaft is going on vacation to florida for a week.lol.

Since we're on the Tranny subject..... As in transmission you perv's.... :laugh:

Tranny cut... I get the basics of it especially for racing bikes but is there any real benefit for an everyday ride?

OMR

timebomb33 wrote:

no it has never been an issue as for it going from second to third it would have to rotate the shift drum way to far for that to happen it was just a safty feature put in at the factory just like rim locks where supposed to keep the massive torque that these bikes make stock:silly: from turning the tire on the rim.

Tim:
All you did was just leave the detent balls out? No other mods required?

yes that is all you have to do to it very easy mod.and mark i like the undercut trans because the undercutting just seems to engage the gear quicker if your riding aggressively on the street you can get a road race cut as well that one undercuts both sides of the dogs to help with down shifts as well as upshifts.

timebomb33 wrote:

yes that is all you have to do to it very easy mod.and mark i like the undercut trans because the undercutting just seems to engage the gear quicker if your riding aggressively on the street you can get a road race cut as well that one undercuts both sides of the dogs to help with down shifts as well as upshifts.

I totally understand what you are saying. Thank you, Tim you had a good answer!