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CLUTCH TIPS
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new ape extra disk clutch set-up
new metal plates
new clutch cable
new clutch lever
new adjuster at bar end
new clutch push rod
new cover gasket
i am familar with clutch cable replacement as i did that to replace a frayed one i had when i replaced a broken clutch perch that came on bike..
joker i bought bike from had 20 yards of duct tape semi holding clutch perch in position.....
should i pre-oil disks and plates upon assembly?
i am going to install springs i have back in...they are stout and i see no need for hd
and roller assy....re-using bolts should be o k ..?
thanks in advance for any tips.....keith
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I would.should i pre-oil disks and plates upon assembly?
keith1 wrote:
I think that's a huge mistake. The stock springs on mine weakened and went south over time. New springs cosy about $10, why would you reuse old springs?i am going to install springs i have back in...they are stout
keith1 wrote:
I think they are OK to use.re-using bolts should be o k ..?
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I can also warn against using oil additives. I added Slick50 when it first came out and burned up 2 clutches. They have additives made specifically for motorcycles with wet clutches now.
Don't forget to lube the pivot bolt at the lever while it's out. You should be in great shape but you might as well add new springs since you've spent so much on everything else. Even the stockers are only about $20 from Kaw and aftermarket even cheaper.
Definitely torque your clutch plate bolts. If you dn't have a manual, one of us can dig up the spec for you. Good luck!
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I prefer the stock springs as well. Oil the plates.
Good luck.
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If I were you I would not use the APE plates. The fact that they are thinner is the problem. I had new 1's last year and they chewed up the mating fingers on my basket. this caused the plates to grab rather than slide along the baskets fingers. The result was a very bad clutch lever action. It would slip and then grab hard. VERY embarrassing when leaving a stoplight, and stalling, or revving to the moon and launching. Now I have to split the cases, pull and file the basket fingers smooth again.
I prefer the stock springs as well. Oil the plates.
Good luck.
i dont need problems like that.....i have all new metal plates...should i just order new fibers from z1 and be done with it....i can sell the ape on fleabay.....thanks for the tip....see .. this is why i ask...:laugh: anyone else have a problem with the ape setup?
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Measure your stock plates. If they are within spec, I'd just use them. I try to get them at 145-155...somewhere close. Most plates will be right in that area. Stock plates are the best you can use. Use stock springs unless you have upped the horsepower level. Places make HD springs (some are colored red) or I have used the inner springs off a Z1/KZ valve spring set. BUT...they make the lever pull noticeably harder and you hand gets a real workout at times. You might be surprised just how much difference deglazing your stock plates will make. I was at the track once and the clutch was slipping really bad. After the run, I pulled the clutch plates, wiped the oil off and lightly sanded them til they were dull looking and put them back in. The bike would then pick up the front wheel. Amazing difference for simple work. Have you tried that yet? Both fibers and steels...sand and remove the shine and re-install and give it a try.
i bought new steel plates a while back and i have them so i m gonna use them....i figured with 33 k and everything else i was doing, why not....
good tip for a clutch pick-me -up though...thanks
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