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17 Sep 2008 14:45 #237549
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kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/338400-a-little-bit-of-an-upgrade
'77 KZ650-C1 -- build
810 kit
GPZ cams and carbs
ZX6R front end
GSXR600 Rear
Kerker
Dyna
Accel
ContiMotion tires (120/60-17&170/60-17)
What to check? was created by Bdog
Taking a look at a used, but supposed to be rebuild, motor and I am just wondering what, if anything, to look at to make sure I'm not gonna be ripped off.
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kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/338400-a-little-bit-of-an-upgrade
'77 KZ650-C1 -- build
810 kit
GPZ cams and carbs
ZX6R front end
GSXR600 Rear
Kerker
Dyna
Accel
ContiMotion tires (120/60-17&170/60-17)
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17 Sep 2008 16:31 #237557
by bountyhunter
1979 KZ-750 Twin
Replied by bountyhunter on topic What to check?
I don't know how to look at a motor and know if it was properly rebuilt. If you can't be 100% certain of the quality of the seller, you are taking a huge risk in buying it.
1979 KZ-750 Twin
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17 Sep 2008 21:50 #237583
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Still recovering,some days are better than others.
Replied by PLUMMEN on topic What to check?
look at outside of motor,is it all nasty looking?look like its been dropped from a plane?:laugh: look in the exhuast and intake ports are they dry looking,signs of oil leaking?if possible hook a battery up to starter and check compressionon all cylinders,pull the valve cover off and have a look.if he has problems withyo checking it out walk away
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18 Sep 2008 04:59 #237599
by BSKZ650
77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
piglet, leggero harley davidson
SR, Ride captian, S.E.Texas Patriot Guard Riders.. AKA KawaBob
Replied by BSKZ650 on topic What to check?
my personal thought,,, unless you know the person REAL well, I would consider it needing to be rebuilt, no matter what he says.
what you and I consider rebuilt may very well not be what he thinks a rebuild is.
Rebuild: new over size pistons and rings
bored cyls and honed correctly
valve job to include new guides, seals, valves
bottom end and oil pump rebuilt
new cam chain and guides
all new gaskets
everything cleaned and new bolts and studs
just my 1.50 worth, up from 2 cents, fuel surcharge
what you and I consider rebuilt may very well not be what he thinks a rebuild is.
Rebuild: new over size pistons and rings
bored cyls and honed correctly
valve job to include new guides, seals, valves
bottom end and oil pump rebuilt
new cam chain and guides
all new gaskets
everything cleaned and new bolts and studs
just my 1.50 worth, up from 2 cents, fuel surcharge
77 kz650, owned for over 25 years
77 ltd1000, current rider
76 kz900, just waiting
73 z1,, gonna restore this one
piglet, leggero harley davidson
SR, Ride captian, S.E.Texas Patriot Guard Riders.. AKA KawaBob
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18 Sep 2008 08:21 #237615
by CoreyClough
'85 GPz550(ZX550-A2)
GPz550 Base Manual --> tinyurl.com/ze5b3qo
GPz550 Supplement Manual --> tinyurl.com/h34d2o6
GPz550.com --> www.nwsca.com/scripts/gpz_forum_2005/default.asp
First Race Win GPz550 --> tinyurl.com/o5y3ftp
Replied by CoreyClough on topic What to check?
Remove the oil pan, and look there. You gotta know if the builder dropped anything in there, or if it's clean inside the engine showing it's been rebuilt. At the price of a gasket, it's worth knowing. Ask for reciepts for proof of rebuilding.
'85 GPz550(ZX550-A2)
GPz550 Base Manual --> tinyurl.com/ze5b3qo
GPz550 Supplement Manual --> tinyurl.com/h34d2o6
GPz550.com --> www.nwsca.com/scripts/gpz_forum_2005/default.asp
First Race Win GPz550 --> tinyurl.com/o5y3ftp
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18 Sep 2008 09:51 #237623
by mtkawboy
78-KZ1000/1105, 80 KZ1000, 82 Kawasaki GPZ750, 95 Harley Fatboy, 80 Suzuki GS1100ET, 81 GS1100E parts bike, 83 GS1100SD Katana/1394,78 Yamaha XT500, 81 Yamaha XS650, 78 Yamaha XS650E, 48 Whizzer model J motorbike, 71 Honda CT70H, 71 Honda CT70, 81 IT 250 Yamaha,82 Honda XL100S owned
Replied by mtkawboy on topic What to check?
When you take that pan off if it takes a stick of dynamite to get it off, you will know it hasnt been rebuilt. I would check it out as best I could and price as if it needed a total rebuild. A stock 900/1000 in good shape less carbs out here is worth about $150. I have one of each with 25,000 miles on them Id sell and thats about thier value to give you some idea. Thats probably not what the guy wants but the rest is up to you
78-KZ1000/1105, 80 KZ1000, 82 Kawasaki GPZ750, 95 Harley Fatboy, 80 Suzuki GS1100ET, 81 GS1100E parts bike, 83 GS1100SD Katana/1394,78 Yamaha XT500, 81 Yamaha XS650, 78 Yamaha XS650E, 48 Whizzer model J motorbike, 71 Honda CT70H, 71 Honda CT70, 81 IT 250 Yamaha,82 Honda XL100S owned
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18 Sep 2008 10:26 #237628
by Locozuna
KZ900LTD, KZ750LTD, KZ650, 72'Triumph Trident
"Over the Mountains
Of the Moon,
Down the Valley of the Shadow,
Ride, boldly ride,"
The shade replied
"If you seek for Eldorado!"
Replied by Locozuna on topic What to check?
I like to put the look of fear(maybe chagrin) on the sellers face. Gris taught me this. I bring a cane to look at running bikes. I put the hard handle of the cane on the running engine and the other against my jawbone. It amplifies the engine noise. Almost every engine has anomalous noises. Pick one out and have the seller do the same tell him to listen to the valve lash or blowby.:ohmy: Most times they can hear it (sure they can) and I'll reduce my offering price accordingly. It has worked and it has not worked. Gris used to say he really could hear problems.:huh: He'd also ask them when the last changed the blinker fluid.:silly: I am not that good and while I have heard some strange noises I have no idea what they are unless they are no brainers. they are my bread and butter. But the cane trick is fun to do.:woohoo:
Gris may get me for giving out that secret. Sssssshhhh!
Gris may get me for giving out that secret. Sssssshhhh!
KZ900LTD, KZ750LTD, KZ650, 72'Triumph Trident
"Over the Mountains
Of the Moon,
Down the Valley of the Shadow,
Ride, boldly ride,"
The shade replied
"If you seek for Eldorado!"
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18 Sep 2008 11:43 #237633
by coppertales
1982 KZ1100 A2
1982 1100 SPECTRE
1982 1100 SPECTRE
Replied by coppertales on topic What to check?
Look at all the side covers and the cylinder base for new gaskets. Take a strong flashlight and look down the spark plug holes at the valves and piston as you rotate the crank. That will tell you if they have been serviced. Has this engine been run since overhaul? If not, everything in the cylinders should be squeaky clean or new....chris3
1982 KZ1100 A2
1982 1100 SPECTRE
1982 1100 SPECTRE
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