Can you use Restore when u change oil?

i was at autozone today getting oil for the z1 900, i seen a lubricant by the oil called restore( i have used this in cars in the past), is this product safe to use in the motorcycle? if anybody knows let me know

I have heard of/seen it, it might affect the clutch:unsure: cars don't have to worry about using "possibly contaminated" engine oil for their clutch.

Yeah I wouldnt try it. Manual says to never use oil additives because of the "wet" clutch. I bet if you put duralube in there the bike wouldnt move anymore! Not sure what ill effects restore could have, I've used it in cars too but I wouldnt take any chances!

thanks alot ar15ron, that saved me alot of agervation, and posibally alot of money;)

A whole lot

Saw the guts of a guy's bike that had dumped a bobble of "Slick 50" in with an oil change.

Teflon-goo don't do a clutch much good.

Don't know anything about "Restore" in particular, but I think the only thing stuff like "Marvel Mystery Oil" does is *restore* profits to miracle-cure peddlers from the pockets of people hoping for a quick-fix.

Nothing beats good oil and a good filter.

Over the years I've used Slick 50, STP oil treatment and the like and had the horrendous experience of

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Clutch worked exactly as before, oil consumption was exactly the same as before.
I still wouldn't use it though, mostly because of the nothing part.

I've never put anything in my bike, and never will. I have however used duralube for years in my cars. I swear that stuff actually works. It is seriously slippery stuff. I use some in an oil can to break things free that cannot be broken free by any other means. I'm not a chemist but it does seem to have some magical properties. I'd put money on it making a KZ unable to move under its own power if you put it in there! Don't think duralube makes any claims to restoring scored cylanders or any of that ridiculousness. They do claim it reduces friction and tends to stay on the cylander walls long after the regular oil has drained away, thats the only reason I use it. I sometimes don't start my truck for 6-8 months so any little bit helps. I've had bad experiences with slick50 and CD-2 and major engine sludge build up etc. I think most of that is magic snake oil Nothing like clogging up the oil passages to put the fork in a motor.

RonKZ650 wrote:

Over the years I've used Slick 50, STP oil treatment and the like and had the horrendous experience of

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Clutch worked exactly as before, oil consumption was exactly the same as before.
I still wouldn't use it though, mostly because of the nothing part.

That's probably because you changed your oil at least once a decade.

And you're probaby not an every red light *Hole Shot Andy Warhol*, either.

A slight omission in my previous was that after dumping in the Slick, the owner of the aforementioned POS thought his oil-changing days were over - as well as most other forms of maintenence.

Aside from the teflon dropping out of suspension and making some very pretty sludge around the oil pump pickup, the clutch plates were an ice skater's dream.

So yeah, I could see where the Slick wouldn't overtly screw up a decent motor operated decently - but the overwhelming majority of people that go for Miracle Cures (tm) have already thrashed a motor into a state that'd qualify as crimes against engineering anyways.

Saw a Ford Van motor with 300,000 on the clock fried alive in its own oil when a guy bought it from a fleet operation and dumped Sick 50 in it - teflon merged with the sludge in the journals and pretty prevented oil from getting anywhere it was designed to go.

So go ahead and run it. I'll pass.

wow.. glad you asked this question, cause I've got a can of restore sitting at home waiting to go in my car. I was gonna toss a bit in the bike when I was done. I hadn't thought about the clutch..so yeah, good save.

Thanks!

It's kind of hard to imagine Slick50 doing any harm. It's been a long time but wasn't Slick50 basically 95% oil and 5% additives some of which was teflon? This mixed 1 quart in an oil change of 5 quarts would net about a 1% total teflon in the system or so at the most.
The wet clutch and additives thing is mostly just a liability thing and the fact companys don't care to test the products with a wet clutch since it's not a major market for them.

RonKZ650 wrote:

It's kind of hard to imagine Slick50 doing any harm. It's been a long time but wasn't Slick50 basically 95% oil and 5% additives some of which was teflon? This mixed 1 quart in an oil change of 5 quarts would net about a 1% total teflon in the system or so at the most.

Well, as I said before, the nightmares I've seen it cause were in older motors where some genius figured he'd get a $19.95 overhaul-in-a-can.

ANY inert partiulate you cram into a sludged-up motor is gonna add to its problems.

The wet clutch and additives thing is mostly just a liability thing and the fact companys don't care to test the products with a wet clutch since it's not a major market for them.

I'd suppose that's true.

But what I'm more worried about is *you* - you feeling okay? For such a normally dyed-in-the-wool OEM kinda guy, you're sure taking an *aftermarket* stand on things...