help me decide

Hey guys just wanted some feedback i'm new to this and i'm about to start a cafe project but don't know wich one to choose or a 750 twin or 650 csr. Help out with some feedback please.

Twin.

Even if there is less power in it ? It's a k750 two cylinder, like i said i'm new to this and just wanted to spend wisely since the the 650 is a four cylinder.

To the extent of my limited understanding of the "movement", the whole "cafe " thing is based upon the idea of light weight, nimble bikes....a twin probably would give you that more so than the 4 ...while not a huge bike, I am sure the 4 weighs in higher than the twin

I'd get the 650. From their condition they'd better be cheap. The original Cafe Racers were probably British parallel Twins, so I guess the 750T would better fit the classic definition. I think the 750T has more low end torque or something like that, but I have no idea which model would be more suitable for you. ???

Get a Honda, if you're going to Café or Bob it :blink: :blink:
Pete

That would be too easy, old hondas are cheap and already look like cafe bikes.

And cafe is supposed to be about small displacement bikes becoming fast; the 650 was and still is a fast bike, the 750 would be more in-tune with a cafe. Just realize that there are going to be a lot of folks on here who are gonna 'hate' cuz face it, the kz line is the best looking and riding line of naked bike made. A lot more work and money go into a good cafe than what appears to at first glance most wind up worse off. Anywho, the 750

By the way, both of those photos you posted are inline fours. The 750 is marked "twin cam", but it is not a "twin cylinder" bike. (Both bikes in the photos actually have twin cams, as does an actual 750-twin)...surprised no one mentioned that.

If you are choosing between the bikes in the photos, I like the standard styling of that 750 better than the CSR. Since both are similar, mechanically, you are probably better off getting whichever one is in better condition. Condition being equal, get the 750. Note, however, the front wheel is from a different model on the 750, so I would look for a stock Enkei fron t wheel for it.

Neither is a great cafe candidate, though. I prefer the stock KZ bodywork to a cafe-style seat/tail combo in most situations.

If you are actually looking at a 750 twin (not in the photos), while it should be lighter, the twin feels pretty heavy. The framework looks like heavy plumbing pipe, and the bike feels kinda top heavy. The 650's I worked on felt pretty light by comparison.

That said, I still really like the twin, and the standard body style of the early twins does fit a cafe style look better. Condition still would be the decider, though, if the condition is very different and the price the same.

Loudhvz the 750 has a dual header pardon my ignorance like i said i'm new to all this lol, does this have anything to do with it being two or four cylinder ?

You stated "Hey guys just wanted some feedback i'm new to this and i'm about to start a cafe project but don't know wich one to choose or a 750 twin or 650 csr."

However, your pictures show a KZ750 4 cylinder bike and a KZ650 4 cylinder bike. Where is the twin?? Ed

floivanus wrote: ...And cafe is supposed to be about small displacement bikes becoming fast; the 650 was and still is a fast bike, the 750 would be more in-tune with a cafe. Just realize that there are going to be a lot of folks on here who are gonna 'hate' cuz face it, the kz line is the best looking and riding line of naked bike made. A lot more work and money go into a good cafe than what appears to at first glance most wind up worse off. Anywho, the 750

Precisely, I always think old British twin bikes with very minimal clutter, jap fours don't really do it for me in cafe style,

My vote fore a twin. If you must go four pot, maybe a 550 might be a better candidate, they are lighter and 'skinnier'.

Some kz porn for inspiration - I like this as something really different.


kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/596234-kz750-custom-swingarm-fab

It is actually a 750 twin cam sorry for that as far as specs in the 750 and the 650 since all i can see is that the 650 has a 4 header exhaust and the 650 a dual exhaust i have very poor knowledge in this subject it was my mistake.