For you Z1R lovers out there...

donthekawguy wrote: C'mon Ron it has the stock paint. It can't be all bad!

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

"C'mon Ron it has the stock paint. It can't be all bad!"... :whistle: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

"not worth owning even for $500. "
Hell for $500, please link that baby for I'd want one just for nostalgic values alone.... Junk or not, they probably didn't make many of these... Anyone know the numbers?

RonKZ650 wrote: I had one, keep your money, not worth owning even for $500. Sorry, but what a piece of junk, the paint is junk, the turbo system is junk, whole motorcycle is junk. I don't mean anything personal on this particular speciman if you can call it that, which looks nice, but my god what junk a turbo bike is. 8000 mles on a turbo is equiv to 100,000 on a regular so bid accordingly, I wouldn't pay any money for the TC. I sold mine with 800 miles for $6500 and was so damn happy to say good ridance. What JUNK. OK sorry, I like a motorcycle I can actually RIDE. You can't ride a TC becuse it's a piece of horse sheet.

LOL, I can understand where your coming from. Everyone here has likely purchased something they thought was the cats arse only to find they didnt actualy like it. But hey, it musta been OK or ya wouldnt have bought it in the first place

M357.5 wrote:

RonKZ650 wrote: I had one, keep your money, not worth owning even for $500. Sorry, but what a piece of junk, the paint is junk, the turbo system is junk, whole motorcycle is junk. I don't mean anything personal on this particular speciman if you can call it that, which looks nice, but my god what junk a turbo bike is. 8000 mles on a turbo is equiv to 100,000 on a regular so bid accordingly, I wouldn't pay any money for the TC. I sold mine with 800 miles for $6500 and was so damn happy to say good ridance. What JUNK. OK sorry, I like a motorcycle I can actually RIDE. You can't ride a TC becuse it's a piece of horse sheet.

LOL, I can understand where your coming from. Everyone here has likely purchased something they thought was the cats arse only to find they didnt actualy like it. But hey, it musta been OK or ya wouldnt have bought it in the first place

Or they bought it and could not understand the mechanics of it and made it run worse and called it junk

I know were one is still in crate, unopened!!

Well I'll still call the TC junk. I've owned countless motorcycles, some I liked, some I really liked a lot, some I didn't like, some I hated, but only two are in the junk catagory and that is the Z1R-TC and the Yamaha FJ1200. To be honest the FJ1200 was more "junk" than the TC, so the TC falls like #68 favorite bike I've owned out of 69 so it's not the worst choice. The Molly paint job was a repaint applied right over the silver Z1R paintwork out in California, had no clear coat and was really not a fabulous job to say the least. Then you get that turbo with the Zenith carb, that has no power until the engine is wrapped up to 9000rpm then woo-hoo, but at normal drive mode you are surging, stammering at 10hp, turn on the throttle and see that bike take off like a rocket, like a KZ250 rocket. You can shift down 3 gears and be at 9000rpm though and all is well. This is not a pleasant way to ride for me. Junk, no other sugar coated word for it.

I had a 77 KZ1000 with an old ATP log pipe setup about 25 years ago, and it actually ran ok with the one carb. Maybe down 20 horse or so, but really woke up around 5000 or 6000rpm. Got those 20 back, with maybe another 30-40 more. Stock engine, 7 lbs. boost.

$19,000 seems like a lot for that bike. I guess I'm just cheap. Ed

personally id rather find a nice clean 78 z1r with the origional blue paint and bolt a mr turbo kit on there with a good carb and a banana pipe