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13 Mar 2010 08:04 #353082 by rstnick
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Their buyer protection is worthless.


I've had over 100 transactions through ebay, and only one bad deal.
Paid for the item through Paypal, but never recieved it.
Have my only negative feedback from this seller, supposedly sending a message (which I never recieved) asking for my mailing address (which is included automatically in the transaction).
I went through Ebay's procedure to rectify the situation, but in the end lost my money.
Paypal was of no help either.
This made me stop buying through ebay for a while, but eventually I started again.

Rob
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13 Mar 2010 11:17 - 13 Mar 2010 11:28 #353109 by Kawickrice
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I just got off the phone with paypal and they told me the seller changed the email on the account and it is unconfirmed. I was told to contact the seller and request that they rectify the problem with the email to get it confirmed.

The seller said in the ad he accepts paypal but would rather have a check or money order, I used paypal.

Now back to the bidders. I snipe all my auctions that are not a buy it now. When I snipe, my high bid amount determines if I win or not. If my high bid is less than whomever I am bidding against they win. Nothing unethical about this. I snipe so I do not get caught in a bidding frenzy. I enter my max amount that I am willing to pay and if I get outbid so be it.

Now on this particular auction there were no bids with 4 hours left. I set my snipe and went on about my business.

This is what is confusing to me....When I looked at the bid history after the auction I noticed three bids were cancelled, all three were a day after the bid was submitted and days before the end of the auction, which is why with 4 hours to go it showed no bids.

Just before the end of the auction one of the bidders that had been cancelled bid again raising the price substantially, then another sniper came in and his snipe was based on the raised price from bid #1, My snipe had a higher max bid than sniper #1 so I won. Since it was towards the end of the auction the seller did not have time to cancel the original bid so it jacked the price at the end. If the seller cancelled bids from not enough feedback as was clearly stated should this bid be legal.

In the end I won the item at what was my max amount so I am not bitching. Just thinking it should have been cheaper playing by the rules that the seller put in place.

Does anyone else snipe or am I an asshole for sniping because I don't want to have a bidding war?



P.S. I sniped a local KZ650 roller last night for $10.50 thats less than a twelve pack of Bud Light. All I needed was a clutch cover and I got a whole bike instead.

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13 Mar 2010 12:20 #353116 by Tommotbird
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Hi Kawickrice
I don't think that anyone would think that you are an asshole for sniping- I reckon most folks do it. It is a good thing if you are buying as you can put in the maximum price that you are prepared to pay and then leave it alone rather that getting dragged in to some bidding war. If you win you are happy and if you lose then it sold for more than you were prepared to pay.
It is slightly different as a seller because you can have 90 plus guys watching your item with no actual bids and then everyone piles in at the end. Can't have it both ways I suppose.
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13 Mar 2010 14:40 - 13 Mar 2010 14:42 #353126 by rstnick
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I snipe sometimes.
Depends on the item.
I will usually start with a bid, then prepare a snipe with my highest bid.

How about some pictures or a link of this $10.50 kz650 roller.

Rob
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1978 KZ650 C2, 130K kms, Delkevic ex, EI, CVK32, PMC easy clutch, ATK fork brace, steering damper, braced swingarm, 18" Z1R front wheel.
2000 ZRX1100
2011 Ninja 250R
2005 z750s
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13 Mar 2010 15:30 - 13 Mar 2010 15:30 #353133 by Old Man Rock
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Kawickrice
We don't think you are an asshole for sniping.....

We just think your an asshole... :laugh:
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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13 Mar 2010 17:51 - 13 Mar 2010 18:13 #353158 by trianglelaguna
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omr +kawick =t.p + saxon =t-t+t-p+-balzs=ymca@2am43tt

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13 Mar 2010 18:42 #353162 by Old Man Rock
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:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Not sure what the hell that's translates into but funny just the same.... :S :laugh: :laugh:

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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13 Mar 2010 18:48 #353164 by Kawickrice
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No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationrstnick wrote:

How about some pictures or a link of this $10.50 kz650 roller.





Here is my $10.50 78 KZ650 roller. All I wanted was the clutch cover.



73 Kawasaki Z1
07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
80 Indian Moped (My American Iron)
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Long Gone
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74 GT 380
79 RD 400 Daytona Special
72 Honda CL 175
74 Honda QA 50
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13 Mar 2010 19:04 #353165 by trianglelaguna
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jeez..can't figure out why no one bid...what a bike...are you riding it home??

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13 Mar 2010 19:07 #353166 by trianglelaguna
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is'nt that the bike from that steve martin john candy movie...wait that was car.....your telling me no one had the balls to bid up another .50

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13 Mar 2010 19:16 #353168 by Kawickrice
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I was watching a clutch cover for $14.95 when I saw the whole bike for less and its 7 miles from my house so it was a no brainer. I have bought from the guy in the past and picked up the part in person. He has a storage space and he will strip the bikes of everything except the wheels that way he does not have to drag frames and motors around on the floor.

73 Kawasaki Z1
07 HD CVO Ultra Classic
82 Suzuki GS 1100
74 Yamaha RD 350 (My two stroke toy)
77 Kawasaki KZ 650B-1 (My putt around bike)
80 Indian Moped (My American Iron)
1
Long Gone
75 Suzuki GT550
74 GT 380
79 RD 400 Daytona Special
72 Honda CL 175
74 Honda QA 50
Tampa FL

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14 Mar 2010 08:19 #353273 by Old Man Rock
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Is that for real (KZ650)... I mean truly, a rolling frame doesn't usually include the motor so at that ridiculously low price something on that bike is worth it...

Hell, I don't even have a 650 but for that price I'd get it if it was close enough in driving distance....

And to think, last year we saw two sets of 29mm smoothies go for over $1k.... :blink:

They should call that Insane-Bay.com

Ah well, so far so good for me using them but it is a gamble....

OMR

1976 KZ900-A4
MTC 1075cc.
Camshafts: Kawi GPZ-1100 .375 lift
Head: P&P via Larry Cavanaugh
ZX636 suspension
MIKUNI, RS-34'S...
Kerker 4-1, 1.5" comp baffle.
Dyna-S E.I.
Earls 10 row Oil Cooler
Acewell 2802 Series Speedo/Tach
Innovate LC1 Wideband 02 AFR meter

Phoenix, Az

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