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Pattern ones are cheap and they are the same as the Z650 also carb intakes are cheap too,put a new set on the Z500 a few years ago, make carb refitting a breeze. While they are out get some 5mm x 2mm virton o rings for the emulsion tubes they may have gone hard, depending on milage also emulsion tubes can go oval, mine did after 69000 miles. 
No3 was worst. Plug check will tell you

I finally, finally (finally) cleaned out the carbs; I reused the old needles and float valves and so on, replacing only the gaskets, O-rings, etc. I did a rough bench sync and swore them into position, now using new intake boots leading from the airbox. (I tried using an Olde Internet Remedy and Cure-All—wintergreen oil in rubbing alcohol—to soften the old boots. This made them temporarily squishy again, but soon they reverted back to Bakelite before I had a chance to try them on.) 

The next day I managed to fire it up long enough to vacuum-sync the carbs, but it seemed to stumble and bog at 4000 rpm and above. Still, the idle was…. [chef’s kiss]. But the battery was close to dead at the end of the day, so I stuck it on a trickle charger and left it overnight, while I dreamt dreams of clogged main jets and bad gasoline. (Did I forget to blow out the main air passages? Is there a vacuum leak somewhere? Maybe a stuck ignition advance???) 

So. The next day. I rolled it out of the garage, engaged the choke, and (after a few quick cranks and a unkinked gas line) it started right up and settled into a lovely, smooth idle. I took it for a short test-ride, thinking that the stumbling at higher revs would sort itself out as it warmed up. In a fit of irrational exuberance I made it about 20 miles or so before the thing sputtered and died completely. It cranked and cranked and cranked, but it wouldn’t fire up. 



That was as far as I got. 

I stood staring stupidly at the thing for a while before trying to start it again. Because (also stupidly) I forgot to bring any tools, so staring at the thing was all I could, really do. But after standing around hapless for about 10 minutes or so, I tried it again and it started up. I headed for home… 

…and made it about three more miles before it sputtered and died again. (Perhaps it isn’t the carbs after all.) And I waited for a while for it to cool a bit, tried it a few more times, waited, and started it again. The bike made it another couple of miles before it sputtered and died again.  

The spacing between the Chevron stations along 99E in Oregon City is the distance it takes an old ignition coil to heat up and fail again. At least, that was my new suspicion. 

Luckily, eventually I managed to break down in front of a Harbor Freight on the way home. This bought me a much-earned bottle of Gatorade and a pair of pliers to at least try tightening some of the ignition coil connections under the tank. It didn’t make any difference; I still broke down at the next Chevon station. And again, and again, and again, until I finally got close enough to coast the last half-mile or so back to my garage.  

It was a stupid day.  

So it never developed much power at mid- to high-RPM, and spark to cylinders 1 and 4 was intermittent at best.  A friend at work suggested I look at the stator/regulator/battery, so the next weekend I popped open the sprocket cover and checked the stator wires. Then I tried to make sense of the mess of wiring under the seat, where I found a short between the regulator/rectifier and the main fuse box.  

Perhaps that might have something to do with something going funny with the electricity. I checked the battery before heading to the store; it read about 12.81v. When I got back, it was 12.72v. 

The following weekend, the battery had settled at 12.62v. (So, uh, maybe OK?)

Inspired—and now armed with a can of contact cleaner—I dove into the spaghetti. I (again, stupidly) forgot to take Before and After photos, but it was a bit of a rat’s nest under there. So I somewhat-methodically took apart and cleaned each connector, and attempted to make some sense of the wire routing, at least so things like the blinker relay and the headlight-failure doohickey unit weren’t bouncing around on the top of the swing arm anymore.

Here is a dramatic reenactment:



I found a few dodgy connections and a couple of bad grounds between the regulator/rectifier and the fuse box, as well as some jiggly connections to the ignition coils. I cleaned and tightened what I could find. It started up but was running on three cylinders. Cylinder 1 gave me a nice healthy Zap, but Cylinder 4 still wasn’t sparking, and I didn’t pursue matters beyond that. 

So…. Progress. I’m not finished yet with the connector-cleaning campaign; I’ve at least gotten to the wiring under the seat and under the tank; I still have to tackle the wiring in the headlight bucket (I need to chase down a blinker short anyway), but I’ve at least tightened a key few connections and got three of the cylinders working instead of just two. The battery seems to hold a charge, and I didn’t find any corroded or burnt connections anywhere. 

Ok. Shit.

Shit. 

The moto gods have decided that my existing, largely unresolved issues are now boring, and that it’s time for some new, additional ones. The trouble is that I don’t think my existing, unresolved issues are boring. I’d at least prefer to resolve them first and then move on to other things. 



Since last weekend I capitulated on a pair of new 4-ohm coils and a set of new plugs. (The dusty old coil, above, is old news now.) Everybody’s sparking now, but it still bogs off-idle…

…if it even settles into an idle at all. Most of the time it climbs steadily without quieting down, leaving me to fiddle under the tank in a panic to turn out the idle-stop screw, until it sputters and dies again. I tried tightening the carb mounts, but no difference. 

In a new, potentially exciting twist, as I was riding around the block the horn decided it just couldn’t stand it any longer, and suddenly let loose a completely unrequested, unprompted, unscripted, incessant (though still pitiful and plaintive) “Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…

“…eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…

“…eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeééëêèēEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, EEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..

“…eeeeeeeeeeeeeeep???!!” until I could finally pull over safely and hit the kill switch before the idle had a chance run away from me again. 

Also, my tachometer cable snapped. Granny Smith must be mad at me, though I’m not sure why. (I did buy a Suzuki once. It was just one Suzuki, and it was way back in 1993, and I soon learned my lesson and I’m sorry.)

(Really. I’m sorry.)

At any rate, at this point I’m kinda stumped. Here are the issues I’m chasing down:

• Runaway idle—unresolved inlet leak? Vacuum leak?
• Bogging/reduced power at mid- to -high RPM—clogged main air passages? Bad/faulty ignition advance? Stator? Bad/intermittent ground?
• New, weird electrical issues—
  • I think I resolved a bad ground to the turn signals (before, the relay would click once, but no blinky blinky blinky),
  • “Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee… [etc.] …eeeeeeeeeeeep?” Maybe need to re-splice some wires in the main harness?

Help! Help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee….





…eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!

By the way: has anybody seen my right-side fuel-tank puck (92075-101)?

wrote:

Ok. Shit.

Shit. 

The moto gods have decided that my existing, largely unresolved issues are now boring, and that it’s time for some new, additional ones. The trouble is that I don’t think my existing, unresolved issues are boring. I’d at least prefer to resolve them first and then move on to other things. 

Since last weekend I capitulated on a pair of new 4-ohm coils and a set of new plugs. (The dusty old coil, above, is old news now.) Everybody’s sparking now, but it still bogs off-idle…

…if it even settles into an idle at all. Most of the time it climbs steadily without quieting down, leaving me to fiddle under the tank in a panic to turn out the idle-stop screw, until it sputters and dies again. I tried tightening the carb mounts, but no difference. 

In a new, potentially exciting twist, as I was riding around the block the horn decided it just couldn’t stand it any longer, and suddenly let loose a completely unrequested, unprompted, unscripted, incessant (though still pitiful and plaintive) “Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…

“…eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee…

“…eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeééëêèēEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE, EEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee, eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE..

“…eeeeeeeeeeeeeeep???!!” until I could finally pull over safely and hit the kill switch before the idle had a chance run away from me again. 

Also, my tachometer cable snapped. Granny Smith must be mad at me, though I’m not sure why. (I did buy a Suzuki once. It was just one Suzuki, and it was way back in 1993, and I soon learned my lesson and I’m sorry.)

(Really. I’m sorry.)

At any rate, at this point I’m kinda stumped. Here are the issues I’m chasing down:

• Runaway idle—unresolved inlet leak? Vacuum leak?  Certainly sounds like an air leak
• Bogging/reduced power at mid- to -high RPM—clogged main air passages? Bad/faulty ignition advance? Stator? Bad/intermittent ground? Sort the air leak before doing too much with the carbs
• New, weird electrical issues—
  • I think I resolved a bad ground to the turn signals (before, the relay would click once, but no blinky blinky blinky),
  • “Meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee… [etc.] …eeeeeeeeeeeep?” Maybe need to re-splice some wires in the main harness? Sounds like the black wire between the horn and the handlebar switch is going to ground (or the switch is shorted out)

Help! Help meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee….





…eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep!

Squirting starting fluid strategically with the bike running will help locate an vacuum leak.  When the RPM increases you are in the right area.