'82 KZ1000 Project

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Re: '82 KZ1000 Project

18 Apr 2016 20:22
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Once again I appreciate all the help I am getting. I have been trying to problem solve. So today I decided to take the cams out and was thinking I could possibly switch a few shims back and forth to get the clearances correct. For example if #1 is .002 and #4 is .006 I could change them over and maybe they would balance out to be more in the .002-.004 area...Is this a bad idea?? either way once I took out the cams I noticed that there was no scratches, scores or wear. Things looked really clean and in good condition BUT... there was oil all over the place...Have a look at the pictures and please fill me in if it is normal and if not what my next step is.
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The tappets seems to be tarnished but not scored.>>

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Re: '82 KZ1000 Project

18 Apr 2016 20:29
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You will buy ones to replace the tight ones and have the ones you took out to adjust the others.
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Re: '82 KZ1000 Project

18 Apr 2016 20:30
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Re: '82 KZ1000 Project

19 Apr 2016 05:37
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oil everywhere is normal.

if you can just swap the shims around that is just fine as well.

that was the way i was first taught was to average out all the shims.(before i ever seen a manual)

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Re: '82 KZ1000 Project

19 Apr 2016 06:25
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Looks like mine before I did my valves. The seals were hard and not sealing letting exhaust gasses into the head causing the oil to cook. It would also smoke at start up and foul plugs every 2-400 miles.
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Re: '82 KZ1000 Project

19 Apr 2016 06:45
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Shims can be reused. Depends on what sizes you need. That's one of the many things Marshall Farr and Bob Oertle taught me growing up in Tulsa.
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Re: '82 KZ1000 Project

19 Apr 2016 07:36
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Steve,
When you say "did your valves" do you mean replace the valve seals? Do I replace all of them or just the exhaust? I do have a manual and shows the "proper tools" to take the valves out. Do you have a better or simpler DIY way to take all the valves and valve seals out? Also when I took the valve cover off the gasket looked new. Can I put it back on if it looks fine or thats a BIG NO?
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Re: '82 KZ1000 Project

19 Apr 2016 08:02
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I replaced my valves and springs. It sat 15 years after a three angle valve job. The seals were junk. New Viton seals, lapped the valves and installed the springs. The valve train "sings" like it did when new. B)
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Re: '82 KZ1000 Project

19 Apr 2016 12:54
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you can re-use the valve cover gasket.
worst thing that happens is it leaks and you have to replace it.


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Re: '82 KZ1000 Project

19 Apr 2016 13:07
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531blackbanshee wrote: you can re-use the valve cover gasket.
worst thing that happens is it leaks and you have to replace it.

leon

Ditto what leon said. Especially since, you're very likely going to take it off a couple more times just to get things tuned up. May as well wait to replace it until you've got it all sorted.

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Re: '82 KZ1000 Project

19 Apr 2016 14:08
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So should I be replacing my valve seals and valves or after I get all the clearances correct should I bolt it all together and see ifI can get it started? Is there a way to see if the valves/seals are good without taking them all out and replacing them?

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