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29 Mar 2016 06:41 #717953 by SWest
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Did you buy a cap and make a tool out of it? I've got a couple of old Mag lights laying around and will make you one if that didn't work.
I guess you decided not to go with the extensions then.
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29 Mar 2016 08:43 #717974 by pete greek1
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I'm sure you're going to like the 34's once you get them dialed in, B)
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1980 LTD 1000..,1976 LTD 900, have the 1000&900 now. the rest are previous= 1978 KZ 650 B.., 1980 Yamaha XT 500..,1978 Yamaha DT 400.., 1977 Yamaha yz 80..,Honda trail ct 70.., Honda QA 50...5-1/2 hp brigs & straton CAT chopper mini bike...3-1/2 hp mini bike (WHEN GAS WAS ABOUT 45 CENTS A GALLON)!!!!

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29 Mar 2016 21:15 #718144 by kaw-a-holic
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swest wrote: Did you buy a cap and make a tool out of it? I've got a couple of old Mag lights laying around and will make you one if that didn't work.
I guess you decided not to go with the extensions then.
Steve

No I just adjusted them per Mikuni tuning manual, +/- 17mm off of gasket surface. I will buy a cap and make a correct tool if they act like they are starving for fuel under WOT.

I got most of my Acewell wired in tonight. Should be able to make a shake down run tomorrow after work.

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29 Mar 2016 21:21 #718145 by kaw-a-holic
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pete greek1 wrote: I'm sure you're going to like the 34's once you get them dialed in, B)
Pete


I don't doubt that at all. I was going to put the BS34's on for a bit more fuel economy and all around riding for longer trips. My father unfortunately is unable to ride any more and asked me if I wanted his BMW RS touring bike. How could I say no to that, so I will pick it up in MT this year. So now I will have a romp around bike and a distance bike.

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29 Mar 2016 21:22 #718147 by kaw-a-holic
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531blackbanshee wrote: congrats on getting the carbs close to dialed in

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nice score on the ol" shockaroos as well :evil:
leon


Thanks Leon. Looking forward to the shocks. Hoping I can still get parts for them as they are rebuildable.

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29 Mar 2016 23:20 #718157 by davido
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I think Koni still make shocks for cars and trucks but they stopped with bikes a few years ago.Somebody started them up again under the name IKON.Theyre probably your best bet for spares.
www.ikonsuspension.com/
Good shocks apparently.

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31 Mar 2016 21:24 #718627 by kaw-a-holic
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Took a shake down ride today/tonight ran fantastic. Super happy with the RS34's. They ran great all the way through all RIM ranges. Pipe is loud as hell so I will have to start wearing ear plugs. Back brake is not working the way it should, I will try re-bleeding to correct the problem.

New Acewell gauge works great but my speed is off a bit so I will have to re-read the manual and find out what went wrong. I will most likely have to play with the tire circumstance until I get it right.

Things that concern me:
1. Oil pressure gauge works while idling on cold start up. After the bike gets to operating temperature it stops working. Makes me wonder if I have enough oil in it with the oil cooler. I have it filled to the top of the site glass. I an running 10-40 Rotella, perhaps I need to run 20-50.
2. The clutch still slips when I wap the throttle when I'm on the freeway running 5K RPMs. I replaced the couch and springs when I rebuilt the motor.
3. The bike gives me a vibration around 80MPH perhaps it is incorrectly balanced tires. I took them to a shop that does mostly dirt bikes so that may be the issue.

Other than that I'm am pretty damn happy with the performance. I don't have the the drop triple on it yet but I did raise the rear shocks to maximum height. Speaking of shocks, I got F'd by the guy I bought the Koni Shock from. That's right, singular. Went to double check the ad to see if I read it wrong and the post is go. $200 for one flipping shock I am Uber angry. Still haven't calmed down enough to contact him.

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31 Mar 2016 21:39 #718628 by SWest
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You might have to go through the pump. Is the shock guy a member?
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31 Mar 2016 21:50 #718630 by kaw-a-holic
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swest wrote: You might have to go through the pump. Is the shock guy a member?
Steve

I pulled the pump at one point in time everything looked okay but I'm not sure what I was looking for. I was really just looking for blockage or obviously worn parts.

No I do not believe he is a member here. I bought it through The KZ Market on Facebook. Have had really good luck till now.

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31 Mar 2016 22:22 #718634 by BlackZ1R
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Don't KZs run 15 psi cold oil pressure and around 2-3 when warm? I knew that pipe was going to be way loud. Not big enough to put a real baffle in it.
What did the clutch basket look like when you put the clutch in? Ridges and wear will cause one to slip.
Sux about the shock

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31 Mar 2016 22:45 - 31 Mar 2016 22:47 #718636 by kaw-a-holic
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BlackZ1R wrote: Don't KZs run 15 psi cold oil pressure and around 2-3 when warm? I knew that pipe was going to be way loud. Not big enough to put a real baffle in it.
What did the clutch basket look like when you put the clutch in? Ridges and wear will cause one to slip.
Sux about the shock

I think you are right about the PSI but it is a 15 PSI gauge and it's sitting at 0 when warm. Freaks me out because it's the first bike I have built and I made a lot of changes all at once so every little thing makes me boubt myself.
As for the clutch basket, I did not look at it that hard as the bike only had 25K or less when I rebuilt it. It did this before I rebuilt it so I always thought it was the disk and the springs were just aged as the bike had been sitting since 1986 when I purchased it in 2012. I will have to dig back into it I suppose. Is there a better after market basket I can put in it? I guess I could also put the APE springs in but will have to make sure I get the hydraulic clutch working for that.
Thanks for the feed back.

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01 Apr 2016 04:21 #718645 by Street Fighter LTD
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Hi Jon
Glad you got out on the bike.
15 cold is normal as is bouncing off zero at a warmed up idle. Should show 2 or 3 at speed once warmed up.ALL NORMAL
Flow, vs Pressure
When you take the plates out of the clutch you may be able to polish the basket fingers if not worn badly. I did this when I last went thru mine and got good results. More of a minor fine file and 400 grit polishing effect , than removing material so the plates done get hung up
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