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30 Nov 2015 06:46 #701204 by kaw-a-holic
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Figured out part of the running rich problem. Took the carbs back off to readjust the float levels. The stock pilot jets for RS36's is supposed to be 17.5 the PO had 22.5s. The cool thing abut Mikuni is the Jets from my VMs are the same and I had a set laying around. Mains are 120 stock but has 122.5s, I will leave those for the time being. Needle jet stock position is -3 he had them set for -5 all the way down at the bottom.

As soon as I get done with the DMV I can get a quick tune in, some plates on and go for a ride. Since it is only 48° outside I'm in no hurry.

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30 Nov 2015 06:51 #701206 by SWest
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Good for you. It will get warmer this week. Still colder than a Siberian witches titty in the high desert. :unsure:
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30 Nov 2015 07:23 #701209 by davido
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It sounds like youer making things too complicated for yourself with the brake problem (challenge). Could you not just get the master cylinder that originally went with the calipers (Gsxr?) and take it from there.? Same with the clutch.
This stuff about the weight of the bike and the size of the discs etc sounds a bit excessive. Maybe its important for a high spec race bike but
the matching caliper/master seems like the place to start. A base line. Chances are itll be the best combo youll get.You can always fiddle with it later.

Best thing to do is try this combination,aim for a solid brick wall,go as fast as you can,then hit the anchors. If they dont work then you can be assured that the wall will stop you!! (Remember. Safety first!!!)

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30 Nov 2015 07:44 #701211 by kaw-a-holic
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davido wrote: It sounds like youer making things too complicated for yourself with the brake problem (challenge). Could you not just get the master cylinder that originally went with the calipers (Gsxr?) and take it from there.? Same with the clutch.
This stuff about the weight of the bike and the size of the discs etc sounds a bit excessive. Maybe its important for a high spec race bike but
the matching caliper/master seems like the place to start. A base line. Chances are itll be the best combo youll get.You can always fiddle with it later.

Best thing to do is try this combination,aim for a solid brick wall,go as fast as you can,then hit the anchors. If they dont work then you can be assured that the wall will stop you!! (Remember. Safety first!!!)


That would have been easier, unfortunately the OEM master for the front end I bought had a fixed reservoir and would suck air had I uses it on my bar set-up. I have found one that will work for the brakes. I am still searching for one for the clutch but am not in a hurry for it as I had the option to go back to cable.

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30 Nov 2015 17:35 #701284 by kaw-a-holic
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Test ride today went pretty well. I still have somethings to address. The carbs ran much better today. Unfortunately I ordered the wrong tachometer lead for the Trail Tech gauge so I didn't have a tach. Idle to 1/2 throttle was pretty good. I may play with the jet needle position again. I am pretty sure that the main jet needs to drop down to from 122.5 to 120 which would be stock.

I found my oil leak and thought that I had it fixed but it is still leaking a bit at the base of the lower oil cooler adapter. I replaced the o-rings but there wasn't a gasket. Is there supposed to be?

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30 Nov 2015 17:48 #701285 by SWest
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Did the surface have paint on it? My old ones had gaskets.
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30 Nov 2015 18:30 #701290 by 79MKII
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I've never seen gaskets on those myself, only o-rings. The adapter housings can crack easily if the barbed fitting is overtightened...maybe there is a crack instead of a leak at the bottom? (ask me how I know how easily they crack :whistle: )

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30 Nov 2015 18:34 #701291 by kaw-a-holic
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swest wrote: Did the surface have paint on it? My old ones had gaskets.
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No paint, I masked them off when I painted the block.

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30 Nov 2015 18:37 #701292 by SWest
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79 might be right about leaking at the fitting. Maybe sealer all around.
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30 Nov 2015 18:43 #701293 by kaw-a-holic
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79MKII wrote: I've never seen gaskets on those myself, only o-rings. The adapter housings can crack easily if the barbed fitting is overtightened...maybe there is a crack instead of a leak at the bottom? (ask me how I know how easily they crack :whistle: )


I will have to look at them again. I did not see any oil coming from the fitting.The o=rings are brand new.

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03 Dec 2015 10:53 #701736 by davido
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I found this today.Thought it might be interesting for you.




Practicle Sportsbike No.54 (April2015)

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04 Dec 2015 03:07 #701826 by kaw-a-holic
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davido wrote: I found this today.Thought it might be interesting for you.





Praocticle Sportsbike No.54 (April2015)


Thanks Davido, that means I have been slacking on my reading as I have a digital subscription to Practical Sportsbike. Thank you for the article. Matching the M.C. to the front brakes made a world of difference.

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