Doctorot's '78 KZ1000 build

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10 Jan 2022 23:43 #860390 by DoctoRot
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This summer i noticed i had quote a bit of lash in the kush on the rear wheel. at least 3/8" that i could rock easily back and forth, probably more like 1/2"+ under real pressure. I bought this repro kush rubber by PMC from Webike and the fit is perfect, zero slop. I always felt like i had to be very conscious of keeping the drive train loaded, hopefully this will help with that.
 

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11 Jan 2022 09:04 - 11 Jan 2022 09:05 #860402 by Mikaw
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Thanks. Good that the aftermarket is working, OEM are drying up and getting expensive. I was lucky a couple years ago and replaced mine inadvertently in my ‘78 1K disc. I was chasing a low rpm surge, before I figured out it was air leak in the carb holders I was looking to the drive train. Replaced the Cush drive, adjusting chain, looking at backlash at the counter sprocket. 

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11 Jan 2022 09:29 #860405 by DOHC
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DoctoRot post=860390I bought this repro kush rubber by PMC from Webike and the fit is perfect, zero slop. 


As Mikaw said, it's nice that reproductions are available.  The cush-drive in my Z1R still feels tight, but it hadn't occurred to me until now that it might have become really hard and stiff over the years, like all of the other rubber pieces, and might not actually be doing a great job a a shock damper any longer. 

How does the new replacement feel relative to the vintage part?

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11 Jan 2022 11:07 #860414 by BCScott
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Is there an easy test to measure play that would isolate it to the kush damper?

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11 Jan 2022 12:39 #860419 by Scirocco
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Hit the rear brake and try to move/whiggle the rear sproket by hand (in neutral). If the kush drive can move easily back and forth by hand, the rubber damper have to be replaced.
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11 Jan 2022 12:54 - 11 Jan 2022 12:54 #860420 by DoctoRot
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DoctoRot post=860390I bought this repro kush rubber by PMC from Webike and the fit is perfect, zero slop. 


As Mikaw said, it's nice that reproductions are available.  The cush-drive in my Z1R still feels tight, but it hadn't occurred to me until now that it might have become really hard and stiff over the years, like all of the other rubber pieces, and might not actually be doing a great job a a shock damper any longer. 

How does the new replacement feel relative to the vintage part?

 
Better in every measurable way. PMC always makes high quality stuff. It was $105 shipped from japan the dampers for the Z1 and MKII are cheaper, came in about a week - I love WeBike.

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19 Jul 2022 16:28 #870654 by DoctoRot
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Discovered a new oil patch on my local on ramp. Not too much damage, and most things can be easily fixed except for a scrape on the tail and some road rash on the swingarm. I rode it home. This is why you always gear up even for small errands, i didn't get a scratch. Time to make it better.

 

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19 Jul 2022 16:54 #870664 by ThatGPzGuy
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Ouch. I'm glad you came out of it unscathed. 
I run those same Oury grips on all my vintage bikes except the GPz. Love 'em. 

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19 Jul 2022 17:08 #870666 by Mikaw
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Aww man bummer, good to here your intact. Good advice on the gear. 

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19 Jul 2022 18:40 #870675 by Scirocco
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Damn, that sucks but this shit happens to the best rider (me too). Time to think about some crash bars/pads?

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19 Jul 2022 23:36 #870686 by kzstreetfighter71
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Glad you are good and healthy after it , yep it’s the short runs that are the dodgy ones, in the summer I’m all bike, in and out of work and it’s a mine field out there. All will polish out and leave cool scars, especially that moriwaki points cover…

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19 Jul 2022 23:46 #870687 by DoctoRot
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Damn, that sucks but this shit happens to the best rider (me too). Time to think about some crash bars/pads?
 
I think i will at the very least make some axle sliders since i have a hollow axles. That would have prevented all the damage to the swingarm which is a big ol' bummer. The tubular crash bars/cages that i've seen on KZs are really unappealing to me on a custom like this. They look OK on a stockish bike. The sliders that Sanctuary/Bulldock use on their builds don't really seem like they would do much. Not sure what to do yet.

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