Freebyrd's 81 KZ1000 Build

That will probably be the easiest way to do it. I'll look into that!

Now I'm still fooling around in my head with the idea of thru bolting a mount for the rear shocks on the swingarm. Two bolts to go thru and have the mount be moveable if I get different shocks or want to continually fool with shock angle. The mount would have evenly spaced holes that could drop through two holes in the swingarm.

I would assume welding of the mounts is safer, but if these bolts are grade 8 and locktited in and don't move, would there be any issue with this setup from a safety standpoint?

I'm not sure its the best idea, but I definitely wanted to throw this out there.

Try not to laugh too hard at my crudely drawn idea. I figured drawing a picture at work would be easiest and take a photo of it.

i am not sure the rubber dampers you have will work in your application.you need short fat,flat kinda ones.
those are made to go through something thick enough to have the bevels cut into it so they can sit in the bevels and get support from the surrounding material.
i bet you can't get them tight enough not to slop around.
cut out some washers(for lack of a better term)out of some old radiator hose or something around 1/4 to 3/8 thick.and use those along with some flat washers on top and bottom of the triple clamp,then trim off the extra bolt length and re-thread.i can spin you up some spacers if you need them,if you can supply some dimensions.

hth,
leon

your bolt on brackets can work but you need to build some sleeves so that the swingarm can be drilled and slide the tubes in the holes and weld up.that way the holes have support where the bolts are trying to crush the tubing.otherwise you tighten them up and then hit some bumps that jars the mounts enough to dent the swingarm tubing and now the bolts are loose and vibrating looser by every mile until they fall out and business picks up.

my .02,

leon

What Leon said. Those rubber dampers are made to fit into the triple clamp, so it is surrounded by the top triple. Just like the rubber dampers for your gauge cluster. You can rely on Leon, he won't steer ya wrong

Hmm very good points Leon. I thought the steering rubbers would work like that and go into something else, not just sit flat, but I was hoping it would work.

Good point about the brackets for the swingarm too. Maybe I won't go that route. It is does slap hard that COULD happen. I don't want any safety concerns so I'll have to think about that.

What kind of spacers would you make? To make up the distance to where the thread is underneath? So use the rubber hose on top, sandwiched between two washers, and what about underneath? Any rubber needed underneath?

It looks like the squished rubber hose might be what Mark used as well, he had really flat thin rubber "washers" in his triple clamp pics too.

top of triple clamp,rubber washer,flat washer,bar clamp.
bottom of triple,rubber washer,flat washer,lock washer,nut.
i hope that makes sense.
if you need some thick or stepped washers to take up the space to the threads,i can help you.

leon

531blackbanshee wrote:

top of triple clamp,rubber washer,flat washer,bar clamp.
bottom of triple,rubber washer,flat washer,lock washer,nut.


leon

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u can use the big bottom cup washer on top (mine had 1 larger cup washer on top and a smaller 1 on the bottom. i just cut the top off of 1 of the cone washers and used that as a flat washer on top. look at my pick again.

u could put a sleeve underneath to take up the extra bolt length or just use a shorter bolt. don't the bolts come out ? mine do.
u can big nuts, washers,? what ever u can find, u can even use the to large rubber dampers for now.i have 1 of those rubber dampers under mine, but put the larger tapered end up against the bottom of the tree.

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i just cut the top off of 1 of the cone washers and used that as a flat washer on top.
those tapered washers were meant to go into a tapered sleeve, similar to the ones in the pick of my top mount. where the gauges mount.

Thank you for the pics and info Mark! That's a good idea to cut off the top of one of the rubber tapered dampers and just use that. So you have the top of that rubber piece on top, then are you still using a rubber damper underneath?? I'm going to get some time to try it this weekend I hope. I'll try to put the rubber damper underneath, then a spacer.

I'll check if the bolt is removable too, I'm not sure but you're the second person to say that so maybe they are which would be good. Thanks!

Well I found out that the bolt/thread on my clamps is NOT removable. But I found a solution! I had two old wrist pins, I believe actually from my other kz motor that were the perfect length to act as spacers underneath!

I put the clamp flush on the top (washers, spacers or rubber, and then underneath I just have the wrist pins as spacers and then the nut. It's most likely temporary, but for now it's solid! which is encouraging. I'll revisit it later, but for now I am happy.

I'm going to be putting the motor back together and need some advice. I want to use case sealer or some kind of sealer/sealant to avoid leaks between the cylinders and the cases. Is there a specific product or brand anyone recommends?

I was looking up different kinds online and came across Loctite 518 as a possible solution, or some type of threebond? Also, where do you find this? I can't find this at my local parts stores. Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

I think I am going to go ahead and order those lower shock mount brackets from Z1. I need to find someone to weld aluminum now! :ohmy:

i use 1104 to seal cases.it has always worked good for me for both 2 strokes and 4 strokes.

cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/THREE-BOND-LIQUI...9QQitemZ180635786561


hth,
leon

Thank you Leon! Is this similar to the Threebond 1194 that Z1 sells? It says it is a replacement for 1104 AKA Yama-bond.