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'78 KZ1000 makeover 29 Jul 2013 03:43 #598842

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Ha! Sorry Alan, I completely misread your post. I got it in my head you were saying clear coat didn't have UV resistance. My apologies :blush: I'm not sure what I need out of clear other than the UV protection. Maybe you could elaborate so I understand better? Thanks for the kind comments!!
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Looks great! Sorry I missed it last night. Now we need some pics of that candy in the sun!
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I'll get it out into the sun after work and snap some pics. I'm not sure how well the candy will show up in a single stage paint. I might have to do it right and add the candy to a couple coats of clear.
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On the paint- it'll work, but I'm not overly pleased with it. I think the color will work out fine. I thought I had bought single stage urethane, but it was acrylic enamel. I have never shot acrylic enamel, and the metalics didn't lay right for me. Either I shot it wet and smooth and the metallic mottled, or I shot it dry and the metalics laid down right but the finish was rough as sand paper. I'll wait to see it in the sun to pass judgement.
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That makes sense about the UV protection being in the clear and not in the resin. I can't wait to see this project fire up... :woohoo: a lot of fantastic work and ideas in all areas. Thanks for the great thread!
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love the color. good to see youre back at it. if you ever need an extra set of hands, do not hesitate to ask. id love to come up and see this get together.

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Thanks for the offer Josh! That day may be soon approaching. Once I get the bottom end assembled, it would be nice to have another set of hands and eyes to drop it into the frame and assemble the suspension. Hopefully in the next few weeks :woohoo:
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whoa! :ohmy:

what?

the porsche moves under it's own power?

i though it looked like alot of room in the garage :whistle: .

so does this mean your wife actually believes that you can finish a project now ? :P

good job buddy,glad to see you back at it.

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531blackbanshee wrote: whoa! :ohmy:

what?

the porsche moves under it's own power?

i though it looked like alot of room in the garage :whistle: .

so does this mean your wife actually believes that you can finish a project now ? :P

good job buddy,glad to see you back at it.



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Whoa whoa whoa! Hold it right there partner. The little missus can't start believing I can finish projects, cause then my hunny-do list will grow exponentially! As for the Porsche moving under its own power, it is the honest truth. See the video above :evil:
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Finally home! My freshly painted frame, basking in glorious sunlight :laugh:

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But how is that going to look with the forks? Well, lets throw them on and see :pinch:


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Hmmm, not a perfect match, but I DID darken the paint a bit with the candy (which, btw, isn't very noticeable if at all). OK, that will do. But how will it look with a black tank? So I set the raggedy prototype carbon tank shell on there to see.




I think I can live with that :woohoo:
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lookin good! i was thinking about your CF tank the other day. I know you were having trouble with getting the CF to stay in place before you could bag it for the top mold of the tank. If you split split the tank into 3 mold sections, top left, top right, and bottom. I dont think you would have any trouble getting the CF to stay in that scenario. Although you end up with a seam in the middle of the tank. but then you just paint a sweet racing stripe down the middle to hide it. like so.

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That looks really good. No disrespect on the clear coat. Probably fine if it's not out in the sun all the time. Clear coats have UV inhibitors but they can't block because they're clear. Eventually the sun will get to the resin given enough time, the clear just slows the clock.

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Well yeah, no coating is forever! I wonder what happens faster, rust eating a tank or UV embrittlement of resins? Either way, if my tank has some issue down the road, I'll just make another one B)

Doctorot, that is a sweet looking tank! Thanks for thinking of me, and the suggestion. I will eventually have to make another tank mold, and when I do I will consider a 3 piece top unit. Before I do that, I will run some infusion experiments with the current mold. The biggest issue I had was the sheer size of the pieces of cloth I was working with, and the amount of time it took to do a wet layup necessitated a slower cure resin. That was a large part of my issue, plus the cloth not staying put. In an infusion, all the cloth is placed dry, so I can either tape or use spray adhesive to keep the cloth in position before bagging and pulling a vacuum THEN introducing the resin. If that fails to work, then I'll try something like you suggested, so thanks ;)
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the porsche sounds pretty wicked :evil: !

that painted frame has been a long time coming :whistle: ,congrats on that.

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I know your not a fan of anything other than black frames Leon :whistle: At the moment, I'm simply happy there's paint on it. Thanks for the kind words, the Porsche sound wicked because the cam doesn't like to run under 5k rpm :pinch: As soon as the KZ is a permanent roller, I have a new (smaller) cam and smoother clutch to put in her.

I got my cases pressure washed last night to clean out all the threaded holes and started running a cleaning tap through everything.
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porchev914 wrote: I know your not a fan of anything other than black frames Leon :whistle:


true :lol: .

but the first thing i ever painted was my jeep tonka toy in the early seventies,i used copper colored paint :laugh: .

so i am somewhat partial to copper :whistle: .

it is a metal color and that goes along way on frames .

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I am wondering if the engine would look better black in the copper frame.....Oh well, I have plenty of black on the bike already. The engine looks so pretty, it'd be tough to paint over it :laugh:

Other than that, just keep rollin' rollin' rollin'....

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