Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

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Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

20 Sep 2025 04:27
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I have a 1977 KZ1000 , I have worked on this barn find for 7 months. I took it apart piece by piece and painted the frame and everything. I put it back together up to the cylinder head and realized that the exhaust valves are sinking all the way down to the valve stem. I bought new valves and they seem to be the same size as the ones that came out. This bike was running when I started, but it would not stay running and had some trouble starting. I don't want to give up on this project because my friends father was the owner, and he now has alzheimers. I know that my friend really wants to see the bike running again. Every time I come to a problem my heart sinks. I want to finish so bad. I really need some help determining if the engine is original and the head is the right one. The exhaust cyclinders seem to be wider than the valves from the start, but if thats the case why did it run? My friend says that his father bought the bike brand new in 78, and he stopped riding because he didn't want his son to ride bikes, so he stopped. It only had 5k miles when I found it. I have spent over 1k on tools and parts, now looks like I need a new cylinder head but I just dont understand why. I am thinking about going down to brewton, AL. to the motorcycle graveyard.      

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Re: Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

20 Sep 2025 06:14
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Welcome 
Why are you showing us the valve  where the spring and retainer go ?
Stick it in the cylinder head combustion chamber and then show us 
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Re: Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

20 Sep 2025 06:29 - 20 Sep 2025 06:32
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Yes, the valves are installed from the other side of the head. The spring seat, springs, retainers, split collars and cam follower go in the recess where you are holding the valve.
That looks like the correct head for that model.

See the diagram on page 15.
www.kzrider.com/filebase-alias?task=down...id=1177&catid=20&m=0
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Re: Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

20 Sep 2025 06:56
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   That looks like a very good resto candidate.  Not easy to find KZ1K's in good, unrestored condition like that.  

With only 5K on the motor it's barely broken in.  Unless it was seriously abused before being stored, it would have been best to leave the head & likely the entire motor unmolested unless it was stuck.  Run problems after sitting for years are most likely with the carbs (easily addressed) & maybe points & ignition timing, not the motor internals.  A simple compression test would have told the tale.

   Hopefully, you labeled & recorded everything during head disassembly, i.e. location of intake & exhaust valves for every cylinder, shim buckets, shims and valve retainers likewise, so everything can go back where it came from, retaining the original clearances.  Likewise pistons & rings.  If so, we'd be tempted to reassemble the head with every OEM part in it's original position, but replace the valve seals with new from Mama Kaw while it's disassembled.  Maybe lap the valves very lightly. or not, if a fluid test shows good sealing.

   A pic of the combustion chambers would be useful, close enough to see if any cracks between the valve seats & plug holes.

   You'll likely not find a complete head in that good condition at any bike junkyard unless it's $$$$.

   You'll need two torque wrenches, one reading  in. lbs., the other reading ft. lbs. for motor reassembly.

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Re: Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

20 Sep 2025 10:05
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Re: Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

20 Sep 2025 13:19
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Don't know if these will help at all, but these are pics of my origi nal head from my 77 kz 1000 a-1 model.
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Re: Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

21 Sep 2025 04:07
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Right, sometimes i am so stupid. Thank you . I    wasnt thinking at all. I am happy now, just that quick. Im about to go to the garage  .  That helped me big time. Thanks!!!!

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Re: Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

21 Sep 2025 05:03
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OOchiwall You have a serious mold/foundation drainage  problem, don't scratch the black stuff!! Yes you have the correct head and 1977 and 1978 camcover. Urankjj, are those the hard to find Hickory low lift cams, ha.
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Re: Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

24 Sep 2025 22:16
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I think that I am over the limit in frustration. Yes, when I saw this bike I knew that I wanted it. But I think that I have screwed it up. I put it together today, up to the cams. The intake cam would not go down properly on one side. and the bearings kept popping out. I tightened it really tight anyway and tried to put the center idler on. At that point is when I dropped the metal into hole. After that I ripped the whole engine apart down to the cases. I threw all the parts in one container. I dread going back to the scene. I really need help. The lights and blinkers work good though.  I dont know whether or not to buy a new cam without the sprocket on ebay or try and bend the old one straight. 

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Re: Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

25 Sep 2025 00:23
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Have you considered getting somebody else to put the motor together ? I'm sure you have many talents but maybe "motors" aren't your thing. Where in the world are you ? the members may have some suggestions once they know where you are
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Re: Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

25 Sep 2025 01:01
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Absolutely Ditto Wookie's statement!! Cam installation is fairly straight forward. If You found it necessary to force bits into position, engines probably are not your strong skill. What "metal" fell down the tunnel? Perhaps the center tower damper plates? Those should be bound to the rubber dampers but do come apart after years. Now you have your work cut out for you!  
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Re: Im wondering if my cylinder head is the right one for my engine

25 Sep 2025 10:50
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OK
Take a deep breath and go do yoga.
Relaxed now ?
Lots of us members are spread out around the globe .
Plenty would love to help you out .
Now    Where are you and the bike located ????????
Short of Antarctica  we can probably help you out 
I don't want to see a nice bike scrapped for a simple fix.
If close to me I host wrenching weekends in Middle America and we have saved  friends from  bad juju
Balls in your hands 
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