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New guy from MN
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Re: New guy from MN
11 May 2016 15:32
Don't forget to take pics, 
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11 May 2016 18:42
OK I'll load pics in a bit but so far everything looks reasonably functional.
Other than the hemorrhaging of green and brown fluid(which I imagine was old gas and god knows what else) everything looks clean and clear.
Other than the hemorrhaging of green and brown fluid(which I imagine was old gas and god knows what else) everything looks clean and clear.
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11 May 2016 19:17 - 12 May 2016 05:27Attachment 13095921_10209331153214889_8655269391177202086_n.jpg not found
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Ok files were too large. From what I can see everything looks ok...?
One big question though.... I saw something I didnt understand. Theres three ports between the carbs. There was no hose connecting them. I believe you are able to see the middle port in pic one. Let me check and re-edit
Ok you can see the center port in pic one and in pic three another port is barely visible to the left. Its all black. Definitely seems there should be a hose there... was looking for a diagram but didnt dig too hard. Will post another post with more pics of what I've seen.
OK nvm after anot her look the middle port is obviously where the main fuel line went in but there were no hoses on the outside two ports.
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Re: New guy from MN
11 May 2016 19:22
CV carbs. Don't get carb cleaner on the diaphragms. Spray the slides until they move freely then do the thumb test.
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Re: New guy from MN
11 May 2016 19:33 - 11 May 2016 19:37
Ok so my first post with pictures it let me post 4 now I cant post two. Is there an overall limit we're allowed to have on the site at a time?
Ill revisit this and try again tomorrow. Soent for the day. Thanks again for the help Steve.
Ill revisit this and try again tomorrow. Soent for the day. Thanks again for the help Steve.
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Re: New guy from MN
12 May 2016 03:44
Welcome I am in Ellsworth WI and have some experience with the 550 650 and 1000s. You must resize pics to post. 512k limit I believe. I resize all my nice digital pics and cam footage.
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12 May 2016 04:34 - 12 May 2016 04:37KevinK121 wrote: Ok so my first post with pictures it let me post 4 now I cant post two. Is there an overall limit we're allowed to have on the site at a time?
Ill revisit this and try again tomorrow. Soent for the day. Thanks again for the help Steve.
Your earlier posted pic thumbnails have been edited by adding the 4th click "Insert" to embed the full size images.
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12 May 2016 06:39
Nice bike Kevin . Those two ports are air vents for the float bowls. I put a couple of hoses leading to under the tank. Just to keep debris from getting in. Here is a quick diagnostic test you can do to determine whether your issue is electrical or fuel related, Get a can of starting fluid. Spray 3 or 4 shots into the cylinders. Doesn't matter that your carbs are not installed. Should still work. Trying starting it. If it starts and runs for 1 or 2 seconds, then you just confirmed it is the carburetors that are giving you issues. If it doesn't start, than it is likely electrical or mechanical (valve clearance or other). You easily check for spark at each spark plug in the case where it didn't start with starting fluid.
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12 May 2016 06:49swest wrote: I use carb and choke cleaner and a guitar string for the pilots. Take them out and squirt through every hole. Smear grease on the gaskets to help them seal. Mine are 30 years old.
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What string do you use?
I grabbed a portion of a B string but that seems much too skinny. Id guess low E?
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12 May 2016 07:17
The pilots are very small. Use the size that fits tight. Don't try to use a larger one, you don't want to make them larger.
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12 May 2016 16:29 - 12 May 2016 16:33
So just after watching a couple videos and judging by how clean everything was last night(before spilling old green gas on everything) Im going to leave the carbs be for now.
Being I was missing hoses Im going to start there. I didnt realize I was missing hoses until I pulled the carbs off. I cannot for the life of me find any sound diagram for telling me where they go.
First one, is 3 & 4 routed correctly? Is #2 really supposed to be capped off? #1 seems crrectly routed to the pet cock.
This is where Im really confused. 1 & 3 were not connected to anything. #2 was where the main fuel line was going in.
This is the hose that Y's off to the pet cock and the carb (#1 in the first picture) Which I think seems correct.
Being I was missing hoses Im going to start there. I didnt realize I was missing hoses until I pulled the carbs off. I cannot for the life of me find any sound diagram for telling me where they go.
First one, is 3 & 4 routed correctly? Is #2 really supposed to be capped off? #1 seems crrectly routed to the pet cock.
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This is where Im really confused. 1 & 3 were not connected to anything. #2 was where the main fuel line was going in.
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This is the hose that Y's off to the pet cock and the carb (#1 in the first picture) Which I think seems correct.
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12 May 2016 17:32 - 12 May 2016 17:32
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