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Nickel plated copper sealing washers on brake lines - alternatives?

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15 Dec 2023 04:59 #892757 by slmjim+Z1BEBE
PN 43067-001 (old #) > 49091-0001 (new #).   From what we can determine, the washers are nickel plated copper.

All of the aftermarket copper sealing washers we've found are either bare copper or aluminum.

Anyone have experience or advice on using either bare copper or aluminum sealing washers on brake lines?

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15 Dec 2023 05:46 #892760 by Wookie58
I have used bare copper crush washers with no issues on brake lines and oil lines. Goodrich supply alloy crush washers for use with alloy fittings
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15 Dec 2023 07:33 #892761 by Nessism
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15 Dec 2023 07:37 - 15 Dec 2023 07:38 #892762 by JR
I used Goodridge 10mm copper crush washers last spring when I replaced brake ines. # 445-16-6 pk6 in  the drag spec Fatbook. They seem to work just fine. So far so good. Local bike shop has them in about week. No shipping charge as they are usually getting other stuff also.

 

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15 Dec 2023 09:17 - 15 Dec 2023 09:19 #892764 by zed1015
I always use plain copper washers and anneal them before use as even new ones are work hardened from the stamping process.
The plated ones are pointless as the annealing removes it anyway.

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15 Dec 2023 09:48 #892766 by Cra-z1
Plain copper, I buy them from this source along with other things like their 6mm small head screws. I like them better than the aluminum washers as they seal better with less torque
belmetric.com/washers/solid-copper-gaskets/
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15 Dec 2023 10:09 #892767 by Street Fighter LTD
Copper washers are the way. to go.
You can even stack them like I had to so the  rigid brake fittings cleared my custom triple trees.
They don't leak at all , before that gets asked..


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15 Dec 2023 10:47 #892769 by asphalt900
An alternative to OEM that works everytime, have been using them for years. Find a supplier that sells the "bonded" washer for 10mm. I've tried the thinner Yamaha versions, read more pressure over a smaller surface area, but if You have any surface imperfections in either the banjo or splitter/caliper/master even those will weep. I buy in bulk here locally from Tompkins Industries. They outwardly will suffice as a suitable replacement but because of the nature of the bonded rubber internals, You won't have to ham-fist the banjo for a proper seal.
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15 Dec 2023 11:14 #892770 by asphalt900
And thank-you for You're inquiry, just checked my inventory and realized i was down to only 3 left! Just ordered more. Believe me this a surperior functionional item and waay cheaper then OEM, gotta think outside the box sometimes in a while for efficacy. And Thank-You for Your script thru the years on the VJMC rag, surprised they even have "printed" paper stuff anymore, Ha. If YOU need a sampling of what i'm referring to i'll send you a couple, check them out, fall in love with this concept and your on Your own.
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16 Dec 2023 04:11 - 16 Dec 2023 04:23 #892775 by slmjim+Z1BEBE

And thank-you for You're inquiry, just checked my inventory and realized i was down to only 3 left! Just ordered more. Believe me this a surperior functionional item and waay cheaper then OEM, gotta think outside the box sometimes in a while for efficacy. And Thank-You for Your script thru the years on the VJMC rag, surprised they even have "printed" paper stuff anymore, Ha. If YOU need a sampling of what i'm referring to i'll send you a couple, check them out, fall in love with this concept and your on Your own.

 
Thanks for the kudos re: our VJMC articles.  There's a couple more in the works for next year.

And thanks to everyone who responded about the sealing washers.  Our NOS stash is running low.  Likely we'll only use OEM plated washers on bikes where correct cosmetics are important.  We'll likely try metallic aluminum paint on the outside edge of a few copper washers to see if it hides the copper color effectively.

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16 Dec 2023 07:26 #892783 by asphalt900
Good Luck on the pending articles! I'm not a literary artisan or wordsmith, that's quite an artform. I'd use Mark Bayer, supposedly his new house was built around his library. I see him occasionally and his sister with her Honda Recon. Bill Brown came over once too because i gave him an old Honda 350. 

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