82 Gpz1100 ...what are dangers of running tubes inside tires?

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24 May 2020 21:27 #826469 by Gdailey2112

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Very curious. Thanks

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24 May 2020 21:58 #826470 by SWest

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Running a tube in a V rated tire reduces it to a H rating. 150+ MPH to 130MPH.
Steve

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25 May 2020 02:55 - 25 May 2020 05:01 #826474 by hugo

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......if you get a nail, it would go completely flat in two seconds......not really dangerous, but very, very, very inconvenient.

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25 May 2020 05:50 #826479 by TexasKZ

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Why would you want to do that?

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1981 KZ1000 LTD awaiting resurrection
2000 ZRX1100 not ridden enough

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25 May 2020 08:27 #826484 by 650ed

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I've run tubes inside tubeless tire for the past 40+ years. No problems. However, I don't really have much choice since the wheels on my 1977 KZ650 were designed for tube type tires. If the wheels were designed for tubeless tires I would not use tubes. Ed

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25 May 2020 12:20 - 25 May 2020 12:22 #826497 by M_a_t_t

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hugo wrote: ......if you get a nail, it would go completely flat in two seconds......not really dangerous, but very, very, very inconvenient.

Wouldn't the same thing happen without running a tube?

Does this also depend on the tire and condition? My versys (with tubes/spoke rims) has gotten a nail in the rear and it wasn't flat by the time I got to work about a mile away from when I noticed something was off.

I've always heard you could put a tube in a tubeless tire with a puncture as a patch to get you home, so I imagine it works fine atleast temporarily.

83 KZ1100A (shaft)
17 Versys X 300 abs
81 kz650h1
81 kz750e2
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25 May 2020 14:01 #826502 by Gdailey2112

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TexasKZ wrote: Why would you want to do that?

The idiot that owned this bike prior to me had used fix a flat in both tires. A LOT OF IT!! I cleaned the f*** out of 'em, .. cleaned them the best I could. Both tires leak in several places between rim and tire. Stumped!

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25 May 2020 15:44 #826507 by SWest

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How old are the tires?

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25 May 2020 16:40 #826511 by 650ed

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SWest wrote: How old are the tires?

Excellent question! Old tires should be replaced. Period. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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26 May 2020 08:58 #826561 by Gdailey2112

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Front tire is about 1 yr old, rear tire 2 yrs old

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26 May 2020 10:28 #826566 by urankjj

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Could it be that both rims are out of round, creating the need for the fix-o-flat to make a seal ?

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26 May 2020 17:50 #826601 by Mikaw

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I took my 1978 kz1000 Rear mag to a shop to replace the tube. He called me and said,” you don’t need a tube on mag wheels.” Well now I know better. The tire will only hold air for about 36 hours and it’s dead flat. Needless to say I will never have that shop touch anything of mine ever again. See copy and paste from a very respectable source, wish I had know this before I had taken my wheel in.

While most of the 1973 thru 1977 Kaw 900 & 1000 models with spoke wheels use inner tubes
that are readily available, many of the mag-wheel models from 1977 thru 1980 use tubes that are not
so easily found - -
Unfortunately, the solution at some motorcycle shops is to install tubes that aren't quite right...
....And much worse, some shops and Kaw owners are unaware that ALL of the 1977 thru 1980 1000 mag-wheel
models REQUIRE a tube - These mags often have porous castings, and they were not tubeless rated....
Running them without an inner tube can result in pressure leaks - OR WORSE!

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1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
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