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01 Jul 2022 10:29 #869698 by Wookie58
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Another random thought (I have lot's) ref the temp gas bottle you are using - is it "vented" - gas won't come out if air can't get in 

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01 Jul 2022 10:37 #869700 by Roach6111
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Is a pumper carb one with a accelerator pump on it? I DO have a accelerator pump on it and it seems to work fine when I bench tested it. I saw all 4 spit fuel out of them when I manually pumped them.

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01 Jul 2022 10:39 #869701 by Roach6111
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Random thoughts are good! It does have a vent on the cap. I also have a fuel filter inline with it and I can see fuel flowing freely. 

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01 Jul 2022 10:43 - 01 Jul 2022 10:43 #869703 by Mikaw
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Might have just found your problem. On the VM26 with accelerator pump, they will not pump fuel till the #2 carb senses vacuum. You should not get fuel to the pump on a bench test. The sensor diaphragm might be bad. Item 23 here  www.partzilla.com/catalog/kawasaki/motor...erator-pump-kz650-b3

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01 Jul 2022 10:46 #869705 by Roach6111
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I'm 85% sure the diaphragm is ok. I remember when cleaning the carb I looked at it and it was fine. BUT to confirm I'll look into it and report back.

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01 Jul 2022 10:55 #869706 by Roach6111
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Just thought of something. When I have them off should I LEAVE the 97.5 or replace it with the 102?

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01 Jul 2022 11:01 #869707 by Mikaw
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I’d stay with stock size Jets. It should run. Something else is going on. In betting air leak, lean condition. Post a picture of the plugs. When was the last time you installed new plugs. You can save fouled plugs by burning off carbon with a propane torch

wher is the temporary tank mounted. It must be above the carb fuel tee.

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01 Jul 2022 11:12 #869708 by Roach6111
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Ok I'm about to pull the carbs now. I'll attach pics of the plugs once I'm done with the carb. Also the fuel bottle is on the handle bars above the carbs.

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01 Jul 2022 11:20 #869709 by Mikaw
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Is the vacuum port on #2 carb capped. It normally goes to the tank petcock 

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01 Jul 2022 11:20 - 01 Jul 2022 11:37 #869710 by DOHC
Replied by DOHC on topic New coils less power

It does not have a vacuum petcock.
Are you sure? I believe the kz650 with accelerator pumps came with a vacuum petcock. If you don't have a vacuum petcock, have you plugged the vacuum port on the #2 carb?  And if you're running from a temporary gas bottle, then you definitely need to plug the vacuum port.

On the #2 carb, there should be a port that feed to the engine side of the slide.  Don't block the bowl vent!  If you have this vacuum port and it's open, you will have a massive vacuum leak on cylinder #2.

EDIT: Photo stolen from this thread  www.kzrider.com/forum/3-carburetor/60546...k-vacuum-line#757605

 

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01 Jul 2022 11:54 #869712 by Roach6111
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Ok have the carb off now. The accelerator pump diaphragm looks almost new. There was a little gunk in the square one but honestly nothing that I feel would raise alarms. 

The port is capped off on #2 and the 2 bowl vents are clear.

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01 Jul 2022 12:07 - 01 Jul 2022 12:08 #869717 by Wookie58
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This is a most bizarre situation you find yourself in, in my experience this severe lack of power would normally be "fuel starvation" - "massive over fuelling" or the timing a mile out but you seem to have bottomed out all of these 
Random suggestion #2 - put the old coils back on - if it returns to how it was then we are getting closer - if it doesn't then you have inadvertently created this issue and need to back track through everything you have done (man made faults are always the hardest to find  )
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