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23 Nov 2021 10:48 - 23 Nov 2021 10:54 #858246 by KZQ
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Hi Folks,
I'm getting back to finishing my trike project. You can see something about it here:

My problem is how do you wire a three wire tail/stop/turn light to do all three with only two filaments
 
I'm afraid I'll need two separate/additional lights for either my brake or my turn lights.
Am I missing something? How come I don't find four wire, three filament fixtures available?
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23 Nov 2021 11:01 #858248 by SWest
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It looks like the one pin is ground and the other two are for high/low.  No instructions?
LED?
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23 Nov 2021 11:11 - 23 Nov 2021 11:14 #858249 by KZQ
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That's right Steve but: How do you manage to shut off the brake light to allow the turn signal to display? Or don't you really need a separate light to function as a turn signal? I'm doing this on a KZ 750 Twin that had separate turn signals.

It seems to me that either:
1) There is a way to wire a two filament light to do all three functions, OR
2) There would be three filament fixtures readily available.
Bill

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23 Nov 2021 11:22 - 23 Nov 2021 11:22 #858250 by SWest
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I would see if the intermittent pulses would override the the steady on function. I've seen them this way. If not you'll need two more.
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23 Nov 2021 11:29 #858251 by SWest
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After thinking about it a pair of relays one on each might be your answer.
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23 Nov 2021 11:35 - 23 Nov 2021 11:37 #858252 by slayer61
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Easy peasey! The lights are connected to the "common of the relay, the brake switch connected to the NC and the signals connected to the NO


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23 Nov 2021 12:11 - 23 Nov 2021 12:15 #858253 by KZQ
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Easy peasey! The lights are connected to the "common of the relay, the brake switch connected to the NC and the signals connected to the NO



 
OK ! I get it, I think! The 12 Volt source is the blue or the brown wires that previously connected to the turn signals. All I need to find is the intermittent signal from the flasher and connect it.
Do you know the part number for the relays?
Bill

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1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
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23 Nov 2021 14:21 #858261 by SWest
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They're the common ones found at auto parts stores.
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23 Nov 2021 15:23 #858264 by slayer61
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Easy peasey! The lights are connected to the "common of the relay, the brake switch connected to the NC and the signals connected to the NO




 
OK ! I get it, I think! The 12 Volt source is the blue or the brown wires that previously connected to the turn signals. All I need to find is the intermittent signal from the flasher and connect it.
Do you know the part number for the relays?
Bill
Sorry I never paid any attention to the color of the wire     As an apprentice electrician, my journeyman reminded me that electricity doesn't care what color the insulation is!

And the relays are all the same. You can un plug a Bosch & plug in a Delco and it still works the same.

 

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23 Nov 2021 19:41 #858271 by SWest
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My Chinese top box had a circuit board that switched the spoiler lights to brake, left/right turn and split but it didn't last very long. 
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23 Nov 2021 19:55 - 23 Nov 2021 19:56 #858272 by KZQ
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Ok I see it, mostly, except for the part that says "To Flasher".
Seems to me that that wire must be continuously 12 V positive until a load is applied whereupon it remains 12 V positive but becomes intermittent.
I'm planning to understand all this just before my relays arrive next week.
Thanks for your help.
Bill

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1968 BSA 441 Shooting Star, 1970 BSA 650 Lightning, 1974 W3, 1976 KZ900, 1979 KZ750 Twin, 1979 KZ750 Twin Trike, 1981 KZ1300, 1982 KZ1100 Spectre, 2000 Valkyrie, 2009 Yamaha Roadliner S. 1983 GL 1100
Projects:
1985 ZN1300
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23 Nov 2021 21:01 #858274 by Mikaw
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Try the word “from” flasher, and “from” brake switch, makes more sense.

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