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09 Mar 2021 09:46 #844615 by katit
Replied by katit on topic Katit's 1978 KZ650 project
Engine apart (except flywheel - waiting for special tool)
Had to make special tool to remove needle bearing (and to reinstall it I guess)
Rough cleanup of parts to get oil and major dirt out.
Next to blasting. And not sure if I should paint or just leave it bare aluminum after bead blasting..


78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s
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09 Mar 2021 19:17 #844656 by hardrockminer
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Nice bearing driver! I need one just like it to take mine out.

I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.

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09 Mar 2021 20:19 #844658 by katit
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Some time with bead blasting. First time using glass beads. Not sure if this is result I should be expecting. Looks good but some oxydation very hard to remove. I use like 60 psi. Definitely better than it was, but now I am thinking about painting hard :)


78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s
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09 Mar 2021 20:24 - 09 Mar 2021 20:26 #844659 by 650ed
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It's called polish, not paint. ;) Ed


1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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09 Mar 2021 21:35 #844661 by katit
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Side covers maybe. But not sure, don’t have patience for this

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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10 Mar 2021 05:13 #844668 by hardrockminer
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If you are dry blasting you will have a duller finish. I use a friends shop where I dry blast the grime off and then wet blast for the nice shiny finish.

I have several restored bikes along with a 2006 Goldwing with a sidecar. My wife has a 2019 Suzuki DR 650 for on and off road.

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10 Mar 2021 14:16 #844706 by Mikaw
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Wet blast, or Vapor Hone is the only way to go.


1976 KZ 900 A4 kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/613548-1976-kz-900-a4
1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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10 Mar 2021 14:34 #844709 by katit
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Mikaw wrote: Wet blast, or Vapor Hone is the only way to go.

If you have one - sure. I want to do as much as I can on my own. Wet blasted parts sure look great

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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15 Mar 2021 19:59 #844975 by katit
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So far (didn't measure yet) everything except head looks great.
Today took head off my "spare" motor. Now I know why it didn't turn.

But head - looks to be in great shape. All parts and threads there. No broken fins, etc. Looks completely serviceable. Some rust on valves which I don't think will be a problem. Some very small rust on cams. But I have another pair, hopefully will have a good pair picked.


78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s
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16 Mar 2021 06:56 - 16 Mar 2021 06:57 #844991 by Nessism
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You might want to run a bottle brush through your original cylinder to see if the marks on the wall come out. If not, in addition to the suggestions given already you have the option of looking for a clean used cylinder. I've rebuilt several similar engines this way with excellent results. Just be diligent when searching to make sure the new/used parts aren't also damaged/worn. You can use a 750 cylinder & pistons from a 750E or 750H too so keep that in mind.
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16 Mar 2021 08:46 #844994 by katit
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Nessism wrote: You might want to run a bottle brush through your original cylinder to see if the marks on the wall come out. If not, in addition to the suggestions given already you have the option of looking for a clean used cylinder. I've rebuilt several similar engines this way with excellent results. Just be diligent when searching to make sure the new/used parts aren't also damaged/worn. You can use a 750 cylinder & pistons from a 750E or 750H too so keep that in mind.


Can you suggest specific bottle brush for 62mm?
This will be my choice #1 EVEN if it's going to be barely in specs.

Choice #2 will be sending cylinders to shop and get it bored for oversized piston kit.

What is the reason to go with "clean used cylinder"? Is it because it will be better than oversized with new pistons? Or because it will be cheaper?

I just spent over $1k for parts and it's engine only and not all. I want to make sure bottom end is 100% and even if I need to revisit top end later it will be not a big deal, can be done on a bike. I want to make sure I like to keep this bike first.

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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16 Mar 2021 10:35 #845007 by Nessism
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Used cylinders & pistons are much cheaper than going the bore & new pistons route. Success depends on finding good used parts though of course.

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