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26 Apr 2017 20:12 #760346 by ayeckley
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They should rotate pretty freely. Probably should pull and lubricate them.

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27 Apr 2017 09:21 #760390 by loudhvx
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I had some pinholes in a tank that showed up just after it was painted. I had good luck with solder.

I removed just a tiny spot of paint around the pinholes then used a big brass rod as a soldering iron with a propane torch.

I first made sure the brass rod would not ignite gasoline by heating it and placing it in a little puddle of gasoline. It just fizzled.

So I filled the tank most of the way with water, and just tipped it so the pinhole area would not be wet, and just soldered it with plumbing solder, using a very sparing bit of plumbing flux.

Sorry for the crappy photos. The seat covered most of the patches. The only one visible is the one below the Kawasaki logo.
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27 Apr 2017 09:43 #760394 by ajsfirehawk
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ayeckley wrote: They should rotate pretty freely. Probably should pull and lubricate them.


Hmmm, as critical as the chain tension is to safety it never occurred to me to lubricate them. I realized they are clamped, but it could be disastrous to have them vibrate/rotate and loosen the chain. Plus if lubricated wouldn't they want to slip back to a position with less tension on them before one was able to tighten the clamping bolts?

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27 Apr 2017 09:45 #760396 by ajsfirehawk
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loudhvx wrote: I had some pinholes in a tank that showed up just after it was painted. I had good luck with solder.

I removed just a tiny spot of paint around the pinholes then used a big brass rod as a soldering iron with a propane torch.

I first made sure the brass rod would not ignite gasoline by heating it and placing it in a little puddle of gasoline. It just fizzled.

So I filled the tank most of the way with water, and just tipped it so the pinhole area would not be wet, and just soldered it with plumbing solder, using a very sparing bit of plumbing flux.


Looks like a nice piece of work Loud. Have you sanded it down to repaint? Any sense that you got good solder penetration? I know when sweating copper joints you can see the solder flow into the joint towards the heat. (plumber in a previous life)

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27 Apr 2017 12:03 #760409 by ayeckley
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Fair point. Mine haven't slipped but then again I haven't put a whole lot of miles on it, or put large loads on. It's a pretty large clamping area though. If nothing else it sounds like they could use a cleaning and reassembly.

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27 Apr 2017 19:42 #760440 by ajsfirehawk
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Pretty sure I figured out why I've had so much trouble with the chain tensioner on the GPz. I've been loosening the axle bolt. If you loosen the clamps and leave the axle bolt tight, you can simply put a wrench on the axle nut (nice leverage) and rotate.

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28 Apr 2017 17:37 #760547 by ajsfirehawk
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Rotating the chain tensioners so the rear axle was at the top of the swingarm caused interference with the chain on the chain guard and the tire hitting the rear fender. So I'm in the process remaking the fender brackets and chain guard.
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04 May 2017 09:08 #761162 by ajsfirehawk
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I've decided to move the petcock. I just can't come up with an acceptable alternative. Yesterday I cut out the petcock mount after determining the clearance I would need and began cutting it in. Unfortunately I needed to move it back far enough I got into the curved area where the upper frame tubes pass through the back of the tank. That complicated the bottom inboard corner. The welds are a bit proud but anytime I took the amperage up I got blowouts. I'll finish cleaning it up, fill it up with gas for 10 days to ensure I don't have any leaks anywhere. Finish the tuning process during the 10 days and then paint the tank.
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06 May 2017 21:05 #761353 by ajsfirehawk
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I got around to finishing the grinding/sanding without messing with the petcock mounting surface. Blasted out the tank with water to remove the slag, metal shaving and sanding fragments. Filled it with 1/3 gallon of WD40 and shook it around many times. Drained it and put a hairdryer in it on warm for 5 hours.
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The I test fit the tank with the petcock installed back on the bike. I now have plenty of room.
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07 May 2017 09:18 #761404 by GPzMOD750
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Great work. I've been waiting for ages to see this bad boy done.
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07 May 2017 16:24 #761420 by ajsfirehawk
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Thank you, I'm going to drive it across the finish line as it is almost warm enough to paint. (repaint damnit)

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10 May 2017 19:10 #761675 by ajsfirehawk
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Back at it. Wet sanding the tank to prep it for the repaint. Removed the stripes and then proceeded to wet sand it to flatten the surface. When it quits raining I'll mount it on the bike, fill her with gas and finish the tuning. Once I see it hold fuel without any leaks, I'll paint it again.
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