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02 Nov 2015 17:16 #696945 by BritGuyUSA
Another Z1-B getting a resto-rebuild. was created by BritGuyUSA
There are a couple of photos already in my 'Intro' message, but here's some back-story.

I bought my modded/customized Z1-B back in 2005, just before my oldest son started college (It's easier to ask for forgiveness than permission, or so they say). Ten years later and after committing the Z1 to deep storage for years, my youngest son graduated college this past spring. Time to put a 10-year-old plan into action.

The Z1 has been, hands-down, my favorite bike since seeing one back in '73 when I was 14 years old. I've always loved the look of the original - 4 into 4 and all. My favorite color scheme has always been the Super Candy Blue from 1975.

So. That's the plan.

Here's how it looked when I bought it:


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I've already done quite a bit to begin converting it back to it's stock look. Here's how it looked a couple of weeks ago:


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Loads more to do ...

'75 Z1-B, '78 CB750K8, .79 CBX1000, '85 VF1000R, '94 XR650L, '95 Triumph Speed Triple
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02 Nov 2015 17:29 - 02 Nov 2015 17:54 #696946 by BritGuyUSA
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In the last couple of weeks, I've removed the 40-year old wiring harness and stripped the front end - ready for a dual-disc conversion.

I replaced the steering head bearings with new taper rollers, - and a new DID 19" rim will be laced with stainless spokes.


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'75 Z1-B, '78 CB750K8, .79 CBX1000, '85 VF1000R, '94 XR650L, '95 Triumph Speed Triple
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02 Nov 2015 17:30 - 02 Nov 2015 17:30 #696947 by 650ed
Replied by 650ed on topic Another Z1-B getting a resto-rebuild.
Welcome aboard! Looks like you are already making good progress. Here's some info that may be useful as you work on it.
Many newbies and not so newbies run into or issues with their bikes which could be easily avoided with a little preparation or information. Here are a couple recommendations that I hope you will find useful.

Before riding your KZ you should take a little time to become familiar with it. Simple things like checking the oil, tire pressures, etc. are explained in the Kawasaki Owner's Manual. If you bike didn't come with one (they normally are in a little holder on the bottom of the seat) you can usually find one on eBay - be sure to get one for your exact year/model.


MANUAL

If you don't already have one, you really should consider buying the Kawasaki Factory Service Manual for your bike. The factory service manual provides instructions on the various maintenance procedures and schedules for your bike, procedures for diagnosing problems, proper torque values for the various fasteners (VERY IMPORTANT), and insight into how each system on your bike works even if you are not repairing that system. Studying the manual before you attempt performing service on your bike will impart an understanding of the system you are working on which will increase the odds of success.

The manuals usually are readily available for most models on eBay and other sources; but be sure to get one that has your specific year and model in it as there are differences between the various KZ650 models. I do not recommend Clymers, Haynes, or other aftermarket manuals as I have seen instances where they provide inaccurate advice. You may decide to use those to supplement the factory manual, but in my opinion they are not a suitable substitute. If you have trouble finding one for your model ask us to help.


TOOLS

WARNING! Do not even try to use Phillips screwdrivers on the Kawasaki cross head screws. Despite their appearance they are not Phillips screws. They are Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS) screws. The tips of Phillips screwdrivers are too long & pointed to allow the 4 blades of the screwdriver to properly engage the screws, so when you apply force the screw head slots will deform and look like crap. The fact is that Phillips screws were deliberately designed to have the screwdriver bit "cam out." This was done to prevent production line assembly from over-tightening, stripping, or breaking the screws. JIS screws do not have this problem. A proper fitting JIS bit can tighten a JIS screw to and beyond the torque spec without camming out. Here's the good news - you can easily modify standard Phillips screwdriver tips to fit the JIS screws.

I have ground down the tips of DeWalt #2 and DeWalt #3 Phillips to make them fit JIS screws. The large crosshead screws on the cases take modified #3 bits (or genuine #3 JIS bits). To modify the DeWalt bits you need to grind the very tip a little, then test fit, then grind a little more and test fit, etc. until the bit no longer "rocks" back and forth in the screwhead. Picture 1 below shows how a DeWalt #3 bit fits the case screws of my KZ650 after being ground properly. The #2 DeWalt bits can be modified the same way to fit smaller JIS screws. Pictures 2 and 3 below shows DeWalt #2 and #3 modified bits.

I did find a place that sells authentic JIS bits. They don't list the #3 bit, but if you contact them they can provide the #3 JIS bits even though they are not listed on the website. These folks were very easy to work with, and the authentic bits do work great. Here's their site:

www.rjrcooltools.com/shop_item_detail.cfm?subcat_ID=89

Pictures 4 & 5 below show a comparison between my home made modified bits with the authentic JIS bits.

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Before reaching for that wrench or ratchet consider the following. The bolts are steel, but your engine and front forks are aluminum. The bolts are much tougher than the aluminum and if over tightened will strip the aluminum threads. Although these can be repaired, preventing damage by applying proper torque will save you grief, time, and money. Tightening fasteners properly requires torque wrenches. Various vendors, including Snap-on, CDI, Sears, etc., market torque wrenches. The two most popular types are the bar type and micrometer type. Either will work, but the micrometer type is a bit easier to use, especially if you are tightening several fasteners with the same torque - such as cylinder head covers. You will need a torque wrench calibrated in INCH POUNDS for many of the bolts. You will also need a torque wrench calibrated in FOOT POUNDS for the larger bolts. Don't try to use the foot pounds wrench on the smaller bolts as it will not be sensitive enough at low torque settings to provide accurate torque. There are many fasteners that require low torque. These include such things as 6mm oil pan bolts, cylinder head cover bolts, etc. for which the torque in 61-78 inch pounds. These low torque bolts require a wrench that is accurate at low settings and this wrench should be graduated in inch pounds. In addition, there are numerous high torque fasteners such as the front axle nuts (51 - 65 foot pounds) or swing arm pivot shaft nuts (58 - 87 foot pounds). These require a wrench that is accurate at higher settings; this wrench should be graduated in foot pounds. Using the proper torque wrenches to correctly tighten fasteners will help prevent damage and contribute to a safe bike. The Kawasaki Service Manual will list the various torque specs for the bolts. I suggest you get the manual before buying the torque wrenches so you can decide which wrenches best meet the torque specs.

Consider buying a can of Kroil penetrating oil and use it to soak stubborn fasteners for a couple days before trying to loosen them. Remember, the original screws and bolts were installed on your bike when Jimmy Carter was President, so many of them may be hard to remove. Kroil can be bought online, at guns shows, and at some other venues.


MOTOR OIL
The ingredients in oils have changed over the years. For example, today's Castrol GTX oil (and pretty much all other AUTOMOBILE oil) is not the same as it was in the 1980's. Back then it worked great in KZ bikes. But, things have changed. Early AUTOMOBILE oils contained zinc phosphorus compounds (ZDDP) to protect engine components from metal to metal contact. This was good for engines, but it was found to be destructive to catalytic converters. Consequently, in AUTOMOBILE oils ZDDP was virtually eliminated and replaced with different chemistry generically referred to as "Friction Modifiers." These work fine and offer good protection for normal AUTOMOBILE engines. However, today's AUTOMOBILE oil "Friction Modifiers" are destructive to wet clutches. KZ bikes (and many other brands) have wet clutches. As a result of these oil chemistry changes a distinction needed to be made between those oils which are suitable for wet clutches and those which are not. That distinction was documented by the Japanese Engine Oil Standards Implementation Panel (JASO). JASO developed a number of different oil specifications for different applications. The specifications that apply to 4 stroke motorcycles fall under the "4T Specifications." Within the 4T specifications the JASO MA class oils are specifically formulated for 4 stroke motorcycles with wet clutches.

There are synthetic, semi-synthetic, and non-synthetic oils that meet the JASO-MA standard and any of them will work ok. However, using oils that are not designated as meeting the JASO-MA standard is destructive to KZ clutches.

Good luck with your bike. Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)
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02 Nov 2015 17:37 #696948 by BritGuyUSA
Replied by BritGuyUSA on topic Another Z1-B getting a resto-rebuild.
Tonight I decided to pop off the cam cover and check things out.

The cams are in great shape, but clearances are running a couple of thou's slack on three of the valves.


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As my carbs are away for rebuild, and I probably won't see them for another couple of months, I've decided that the head will be coming off in the next day or so to have a look at the valves and piston crowns.

More to come!

'75 Z1-B, '78 CB750K8, .79 CBX1000, '85 VF1000R, '94 XR650L, '95 Triumph Speed Triple
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02 Nov 2015 17:42 #696951 by BritGuyUSA
Replied by BritGuyUSA on topic Another Z1-B getting a resto-rebuild.
Ed, - I really do appreciate your advice - it's very sound!

I do already have both the FSM and the Parts Manual.

(One of the first special tools I invested in was JIS screwdrivers #1, #2 and #3, plus a neat Vessel impact #2 driver).

Having the above, plus the many, many knowledgeable members here I feel comfortable tackling this project.

Cheers!

'75 Z1-B, '78 CB750K8, .79 CBX1000, '85 VF1000R, '94 XR650L, '95 Triumph Speed Triple

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02 Nov 2015 17:45 #696952 by 650ed
Replied by 650ed on topic Another Z1-B getting a resto-rebuild.
Good to hear; I never know if folks already are aware of some of the basic stuff. Those Vessel drivers are really nice! Ed

1977 KZ650-C1 Original Owner - Stock (with additional invisible FIAMM horn)

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02 Nov 2015 18:03 #696957 by BritGuyUSA
Replied by BritGuyUSA on topic Another Z1-B getting a resto-rebuild.
Ed. I also have click-style micrometer torque wrenches in both inch- and foot-pound flavors ... plus 'Aero-Kroil' has been my 'go to' releasing agent for a number of years.

Great minds thinking alike!

That's useful information on the oil compatibilities, particularly the ZDDP angle. I've always heard to stay away from synthetics for these '70's machines and that their gasket materials won't perform as designed when using the same.

'75 Z1-B, '78 CB750K8, .79 CBX1000, '85 VF1000R, '94 XR650L, '95 Triumph Speed Triple

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02 Nov 2015 18:23 #696961 by 650ed
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I don't think synthetics are a problem as long as they are JASO-MA compliant. I've been using Mobil-1 Racing 4T (full synthetic) for 8 years with no leaks. Ed

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05 Nov 2015 16:49 #697387 by BritGuyUSA
Replied by BritGuyUSA on topic Another Z1-B getting a resto-rebuild.
I had some drama getting the front wheel rebuild sorted out which you can read about here:

kzrider.com/forum/5-chassis/600255-z1-fr...torting?limitstart=0

This assembly now has new bearings and seals, new stainless spokes, a new DID 19" rim and Avon RoadRider tire.

Rotors for the dual disc conversion are mounted.

Almost time to put the front end back together.


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07 Nov 2015 02:11 #697575 by Kidkawie
Replied by Kidkawie on topic Another Z1-B getting a resto-rebuild.
That paint job is something else, haha. Ralph/Paintworks makes the correct blue.

1975 Z1 900
1994 KX250 Supermoto
2004 KX125

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07 Nov 2015 02:30 #697576 by Patton
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BritGuyUSA wrote: . . . The cams are in great shape, but clearances are running a couple of thou's slack on three of the valves. . . .


As known, factory specs are 0.002" ~ 0.004" for cold valve clearances.
Some report success with up to 0.006" for exhaust valve clearance.

Good Fortune! :)

1973 Z1
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07 Nov 2015 09:59 - 07 Nov 2015 17:07 #697605 by BritGuyUSA
Replied by BritGuyUSA on topic Another Z1-B getting a resto-rebuild.

Kidkawie wrote: That paint job is something else, haha. Ralph/Paintworks makes the correct blue.


An authentic '80's-style custom paint job if there ever was one!

It was actually pretty well executed if that's what 'floats your boat'. Here's pics of the lettering on the old tailpiece, and the name of the guilty party as painted on the tank.


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I actually sold one of my children and bought a set of Doremi reproduction tank/tailpiece/side cover combos, along with the MRS reproduction 4-4 muffler set some months ago.

They are all (bar the already mounted tailpiece) wrapped up and safely stored out of harms way for the time being.

'75 Z1-B, '78 CB750K8, .79 CBX1000, '85 VF1000R, '94 XR650L, '95 Triumph Speed Triple
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