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21 Mar 2015 12:50 #665119 by 650ed
Be sure to use Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS) screwdriver bits on the crosshead screws. They are NOT Phillips despite their appearance. If you're not familiar with the JIS bits just ask and I'll post a link showing how to very eaisily convert Phillips bits to JIS. Ed

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21 Mar 2015 15:21 #665135 by NobleHops
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650ed wrote: Be sure to use Japanese Industrial Standard (JIS) screwdriver bits on the crosshead screws. They are NOT Phillips despite their appearance. If you're not familiar with the JIS bits just ask and I'll post a link showing how to very eaisily convert Phillips bits to JIS. Ed


Thank you kindly Ed, I was turned onto this particular bit of tool porn recently, and what a difference they make:



That said, I'd LOVE to read that info, please do post that link, that would be awesome content for sure.

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21 Mar 2015 15:29 #665138 by NobleHops
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OK, I'm gonna stand down on the whole idea of not taking the jugs off, I think Steve's idea was the right one. Those valve guide seals are bound to be old and punky and i'm sure the cylinders would benefit from a rehone at the minimum, and the valves and springs ought to be inspected too.

So I am doing the carbs today - have soda blasted them and stripped them down to little bits, and it's all making trips through the ultrasonic cleaner today.



And then I will start taking the bike apart in earnest, :)

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29 Mar 2015 07:43 #665621 by NobleHops
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OK, I owe this thread an update.

Thanks first off to Stein, for maintaining and restoring this forum after it was attacked. It's mystifying to me how people could find hacking community websites like this one to be a worthwhile use of their skills.

Much progress to report. As prior, the carbs are all the way apart and blasted and ultrasonally cleaned, and my rebuild kits arrived a few days ago. Will tackle that shortly, but at the moment I am concentrating on disassembly so I can get some stuff sent out for coating, plating, etc.

I had some good conscripted labor to work with, and so we did most of the primary disassemblh early last week - got the engine out and safely on a dolly, good to go.



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Broke it down a little further, extracted the steering head and swingarm bearings, photo'd the motor mounts and battery box assemblies, and got all the black bits together, and down to a local powdercoater.

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Have been evolving my system a bit on this project - laying out the subassemblies as I disassemble them, measuring and noting the fasteners, then into the bins for replating. I'll have a half-day of sorting to do to get them back together at reassembly, but I'm going to save a bloody fortune on fasteners on this project and the nice replaced zinc stuff looks amazing.

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We are very nearly all the way apart at this point - need to get the plating sent out ASAP, I am of course making a list of parts I need as I go, have another big parts order to make. I need to get the rims off the hubs next so I can evaluate them for replating or repainting, and then I'll be ready to start getting the chassis back to a roller and turn my attention to the engine.

There is a big pile of boxes in the foyer as I type this from Z1parts.net and it is taking all my self control to not tear them open and unpack and fondle the new bodywork. I won't last forever though :-).

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29 Mar 2015 08:27 #665624 by Patton
Here's a last minute method to positively assure that the pilot circuit is as-new clean, and assure the critical flow of fuel mixture into the carb bore via the pilot circuit.

www.kzrider.com/forum/3-carburetor/48928...pilot-circuit#489287

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30 Mar 2015 13:51 #665808 by Kidkawie
Good luck with the rebuild! I restored 1 1/2 Z1-B's. the first one was my fathers bike he bought off the showroom floor. The second I bought to restore as an investment then got stressed out and sold it 1/2 way through.

As far as tuning, my Dads bike had pods on it and it ran like crap. I installed the stock airbox (which he thankfully saved) and it was like a brand new bike. So IMO, I would set everything as far as the engine goes to stock. I still need to buy emulators but I do have a set of modified ZRX shock I throw on every so often. They really help on the highway. The stock looking reproduction shocks suck to ride on.

If you strip the frame I'm the guy that makes exact replicas of the steer tube sticker.

My Dads Z1B. I ride it like I stole it. haha


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31 Mar 2015 13:08 #665949 by NobleHops
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Greetings Kid, and thanks for the good info. Wish I knew you did the frame stickers a week ago - I ordered one up from a company in Switzerland already.

I will look you up next time!

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05 Apr 2015 11:42 #666632 by NobleHops
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OK, time for a quick update, fits and starts as usual as I wait for suppliers and parts.

All the zinc stuff is back from plating, looks A-. I could have prepared it a little better, pre-polishing or tumbling a few items that had galling on the surface, but it's relatively few items, the rest look awesome and frankly so do they. Don't seem to have a pic but I'll take one, Reconditioned parts look so blingy :-).

All the powdercoat is done, and I will pick it up tomorrow. Unfortunately I neglected to order swingarm bushings, so that's a hold-up to getting that back together, but I did get started on the wheels. There is tool damage on the rims, and I debated repairing it and rechroming, but there are going to be so many repro parts on this bike I decided it was not worth it, so a new set of DID are inbound and so as soon as those arrive I will relace the wheels and install new bearings. So the hubs got cleaned up and the bearings extracted, and that's on tap for this week.

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Need one more push early this week, to order a few key parts like those bushings and get a small batch of chrome replated, and then reassembly of the chassis will begin in earnest.

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05 Apr 2015 12:29 #666638 by SWest
That must be a KZ 900 front hub. No matter, the disks are easier to come by.
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05 Apr 2015 12:30 - 05 Apr 2015 12:37 #666639 by NobleHops
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Awww, really? WTF. Can you elaborate please Steve?

EDIT: Nevermind, I used the Google machine and found knowledge. Stock wheel has the black flange, larger hub, eh?


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05 Apr 2015 12:35 - 05 Apr 2015 12:40 #666641 by SWest
The Z1 had a different axle style and the hub had more holes. I went to a KZ 900 hub because I had two disks for it. Good thing too. I was able to buy two drilled disks for next to nothing. The Z1 hubs are pricey.
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05 Apr 2015 12:39 #666642 by NobleHops
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Thank you Steve. There are Easter Eggs (hehe) aplenty on this bike, more to come I'm certain. At a glance my hub looks smaller, and that makes me think my new spokes aren't right for it. Do you happen to know?

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