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08 May 2015 20:06 #671197 by 650mod
Replied by 650mod on topic 650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build
That's an option too (potentially if I have enough meat/right spot to tie into) on the triple. I'll have to look into this one too. Thanks Leon :)

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14 May 2015 12:26 #672099 by 650mod
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So i'm thinking I may need to change the stops idea up again. I tried to mock up your idea Leon, but that won't work for me. Something along the lines of your set up on the bike right now will work. I'll drill the lower triple, tap a bolt in, and weld tabs to the right and left side of the steering stem to act as stops. Kind of like this.

78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
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14 May 2015 12:44 #672102 by davido
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When I read your problem I thought of Summerlins idea,shame it wont work.Also Leons is along the same lines.
Your idea with the bolt and 2 lugs on the frame seems like a lot of messing around. Have you thought about looking to the top yoke (triple) and maybe using that along with one of the previous ideas?
Good luck

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14 May 2015 17:57 #672145 by 650mod
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Davido- I really like Leon's idea with the two lugs on the top of the lower triple to knock the steering tube, but I can't make it work because the triples are angled so aggressively forward. The idea that Sumerlind shared with tapping the back of the triple and knocking bolts in is nice, but it would end up being more work than the one I just brain stormed (I think). With this new idea, I just have to drill the bolt into the centre of the triple, reinstall the triple, turn the bars and find the end range of motion, and tag on two nubs to stop the bolt.

This is the last big thing to do before it gets powder coated, so this is really getting to me...

78 kz 650 custom
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Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
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15 May 2015 05:56 #672203 by 531blackbanshee
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your idea will work fine .
kinda the reverse of what i did.

have you thought of mounting a steering dampner and using it for the limits?

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
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15 May 2015 08:06 #672224 by 650mod
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Leon- exactly, just a little back asswards to the usual set up ;) No, I actually haven't though of that. I didn't know you could set end range on those? It could be set up to have a limit left-right?

78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
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15 May 2015 12:59 #672269 by 531blackbanshee
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no you would have to mount it so when it bottomed out it would act as a stop.

leon

skiatook,oklahoma 1980 z1r,1978 kz 1000 z1r x 3,
1976 kz 900 x 3
i make what i can,and save the rest!

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17 May 2015 11:28 #672495 by kaw-a-holic
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650mod wrote: Leon- exactly, just a little back asswards to the usual set up ;) No, I actually haven't though of that. I didn't know you could set end range on those? It could be set up to have a limit left-right?


Leon, can you suggest a stabilizer for me? Length with pics of mounting points would be graciously appreciated.

Jon
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Mesa, AZ
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17 May 2015 14:44 #672523 by Shimmy
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I may be mistaken but I remember hearing somewhere that using a steering stabilizer as steering stops isn't good. I think it wrecks the stabilizer and the limits may fail. I wasn't able to find anything with a quick search but it should be worth looking into if you're thinking of investing in a stabilizer.

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17 May 2015 14:51 #672526 by 650mod
Replied by 650mod on topic 650 Mod's 78 Fighter Build
Leon- i'll have to look into it a bit more.
Shimmy- if you've read it lately could you link me to it?

I might just drill a single hole in the front of the lower triple and tag on two stop bungs to the steering stem. This might just be the easiest thing to do for now

78 kz 650 custom
Wiseco 720cc big bore
Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
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17 May 2015 15:21 #672532 by Shimmy
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Ah, calling them steering dampers instead yielded a couple results:
www.sohc.co.uk/index.php?topic=7350.0
www.oehlins.ch/data/120833537207270-05_OMMXSDMXNew.pdf <-- in the caution on the second page
Not sure if this is where I read it but they sound like they make the same points as I remember hearing.

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17 May 2015 19:38 #672573 by 650mod
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Thanks for the read, Shimmy!

78 kz 650 custom
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Dynajet stage 3 carb kit with pods
2002 Kawasaki Z750 exhaust
2001 Buell lightning front end
1999 Ninja 600 swingarm with 1999 Ninja 900 rear rim
converted to monoshock rear
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