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18 Apr 2022 10:49 - 18 Apr 2022 10:49 #865674 by katit
Which black 2k urethane paint? was created by katit
No eBay APP ID and/or Cert ID defined in Kunena configurationI am trying to find paint for frame and all the bits on my kz650. I think it should be semi-gloss. I am going to use epoxy primer, it is compatible with urethane top coats.
But which one? I searched online, I just need a quart. Closest I found is this, but not sure what do they mean by "semi gloss SHEEN"



Basically, looking for good stuff recommendation..

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s
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18 Apr 2022 11:12 - 18 Apr 2022 11:40 #865675 by Warren3200gt
Replied by Warren3200gt on topic Which black 2k urethane paint?
Simonez tough paint is the way to go. Either satin or gloss. No need to reinvent the wheel. 
No priming, heat resistant, fuel resistant, touch dry in 10 minutes, chip resistant. Available in rattle cans. 
Long lasting and as close to khi original as you can get. 

 


Z1000J2 somewhat modified!

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18 Apr 2022 11:39 #865679 by katit
Replied by katit on topic Which black 2k urethane paint?
Well, this paint is $60 shipped from UK to US, so not something I want. I prefer to go "traditional" way with 2k primer and paint..

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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18 Apr 2022 11:52 - 18 Apr 2022 12:37 #865681 by F64
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You may be able to use SprayMax's 2K satin clear coat to go over one of their basecoats......
www.spraymax.com/en-us/products/product/...atte-2k-clear-satin/

and then I saw this

SprayMax makes a satin black 2K.
www.spraymax.com/en-us/products/product/...ts/2k-hot-rod-black/

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81-KZ440-D2.
Louis Dudzik's GM HEI ignitor conversion installed 2015 s3.amazonaws.com/gpzweb/Ignition/GPZgmHEImod.html
Motogadget m-unit blue installed 2017.
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18 Apr 2022 11:55 #865682 by katit
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You may be able to use SprayMax's 2K satin clear coat to go over one of their basecoats......
and then I saw this

SprayMax makes a satin black 2K.
www.spraymax.com/en-us/products/product/...ts/2k-hot-rod-black/

But frame is not satin, it's semi-gloss from what I understand?

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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18 Apr 2022 11:58 - 18 Apr 2022 12:06 #865683 by Warren3200gt
Replied by Warren3200gt on topic Which black 2k urethane paint?
Seems Simonez is called sperex in the US.
Satin and semi gloss is the same thing depends which side of the pond you live. 


Z1000J2 somewhat modified!

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18 Apr 2022 12:12 - 18 Apr 2022 12:15 #865684 by F64
Replied by F64 on topic Which black 2k urethane paint?
You will have to test on spray out cards or a test panel and see if the finish matches.
There is no standard for gloss level terminology.
One companies' semi-gloss finish maybe another companies' matte finish.

photo:PPG training/basic assumptions-refinishing
nanopdf.com/download/refinish-assumptions-guide_pdf

81-KZ440-D2.
Louis Dudzik's GM HEI ignitor conversion installed 2015 s3.amazonaws.com/gpzweb/Ignition/GPZgmHEImod.html
Motogadget m-unit blue installed 2017.
LIC, NY
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18 Apr 2022 12:20 - 18 Apr 2022 12:21 #865687 by Mikaw
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I used VHT Roll bar and Chassis paint in satin black to touch up spots on my 1978 1000 LTD matched perfect. I’d buy you a week of dinners if you can tell me where I touched up the frame. Not Urethane but claims to be Epoxy.

www.vhtpaint.com/high-heat/vht-roll-bar-chassis-paint

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1976 KZ 900 B1 LTD
1978 KZ 1000 B2 LTD
1980 KZ 750 E1
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18 Apr 2022 12:49 #865689 by katit
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I used VHT Roll bar and Chassis paint in satin black to touch up spots on my 1978 1000 LTD matched perfect. I’d buy you a week of dinners if you can tell me where I touched up the frame. Not Urethane but claims to be Epoxy.

www.vhtpaint.com/high-heat/vht-roll-bar-chassis-paint

How it can be epoxy? Or it's got this punch thing to mix inside can?

Problem is - frame is in very poor shape, definitely "flat" or "rust" so can't tell how to match.

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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18 Apr 2022 14:52 - 18 Apr 2022 14:58 #865698 by F64
Replied by F64 on topic Which black 2k urethane paint?
You could buy this piece and match the gloss level to it.
engine mount

There aren't many 2K rattle cans out there. Eastwood has their own line as well.




 
 

81-KZ440-D2.
Louis Dudzik's GM HEI ignitor conversion installed 2015 s3.amazonaws.com/gpzweb/Ignition/GPZgmHEImod.html
Motogadget m-unit blue installed 2017.
LIC, NY
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18 Apr 2022 16:29 #865706 by Nessism
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I used Nason Black Ful-Thane urethane on my frame and it looks fantastic.  I'm not a professional painter but I've painted enough to know that the Nason sprays better than any other paint I've ever used.  

Kawasaki used really crappy paint on their frames, so it's hard to know for sure what gloss level is original.  I do know that Kawasaki used a primer layer on the lower part of the frame.  Higher up, I didn't find any primer.  

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18 Apr 2022 17:40 #865713 by katit
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Where to get Nason online? I can’t find any

78 KZ650B2A - resto in progress
www.kzrider.com/forum/11-projects/615161...s-1978-kz650-project
Other bikes: 1978 BMW R100/7, 1978 Moto Guzzi T3, 2016 DRZ400s

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