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29 Nov 2006 15:34 #96041 by unkle fester
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I have a 78 kz650b2.....and I want dual disc brakes on the front....the lower leg on the right side has mounts for a caliper...is this possible with the spoke wheel?? I have seen dual disk setups with the cast wheel.. Will the dual brake parts off a kz650SR work, and is the rotor the same for both sides?? Is there anything else that will work for me??? thanks

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29 Nov 2006 15:38 #96042 by fixer5000
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easily done. yes those parts will fit. now you need to decide do you want sintered metal pads or organics.metal requires a different piston in the caliper...heres a shot of my kz650b2 with duals installed...steve

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29 Nov 2006 17:25 #96077 by Sandy
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You'll also have to decide if You want the calipers in BEHIND the forks,or in FRONT.I did the upgrade to My bike,and I had to switch the forks around in order to get the calipers to the backside of the forks.It's entirely up to You.I did it because I thought it looked cleaner.I also had to change My speedo cable to a longer one,because the original was too short after I did this.
You might also have to change the master cylinder.I believe the one for a single disk is a 1/2 inch,and You should be using a 5/8,but don't quote Me on that one.(Others will chime in)
Obviously,You'll need a second line coming from the splitter,down to the new caliper.
There should be a cover on Your hub on the side where there is no caliper...remove that,and it will expose the holes for the other disk.
It WILL work,but You have a few things to do.B)

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29 Nov 2006 18:18 #96088 by 77KZ650
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I believe this article discusses everything you need to know about dual discs. it talks about using a 1/2 inch MC vs a 5/8 MC in there somewhere too.... just reread part, if you stick with the 1/2 MC you will have very touchy brakes, you wont have to pull very hard to get a lot of stopping power
Scott

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29 Nov 2006 19:49 #96115 by unkle fester
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are there any other calipers and rotors beside what comes on a kz650 that will work?? I guess what I am saying is that this specific caliper and rotor was used on a lot of different models....I guess

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29 Nov 2006 20:09 #96128 by steell
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I used KZ650SR drilled rotors on the front of one of my 750 twins, so I guess the 750 twin calipers and rotors ought to work on your 650.

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29 Nov 2006 20:17 #96129 by SpokeWheel650B
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Hey Unkie, I am in the middle of gathering the required parts to do the same conversion to my Kz650B2 (mines red). The rotor is the same 4 bolt, solid undrilled item used on the later 900's, 1000's and 750 twins. Our bikes have the caliper mounted behind the left fork leg so the '78 650c/sr is a perfect donor for a RH caliper. You can use one of the earlier calipers (77) but the bleeder valve is in a different position than the later stuff. I have read on here regarding the master cyl issue and have decided to try my orig MC using the twin discs and see what it feels like. I have had no luck finding a dual out splitter for the brake lines, so I am just gonna mount both the lines together and use a longer through bolt. I will be posting pics of mine during work soon.

good luck!

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29 Nov 2006 20:47 #96140 by Sandy
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SpokeWheel650B wrote:

I have had no luck finding a dual out splitter for the brake lines, so I am just gonna mount both the lines together and use a longer through bolt. I will be posting pics of mine during work soon.

Ray Kelley


I did the same thing(used a longer banjo-bolt to accomodate 2 lines),and it's been 2 seasons with no problems to speak of.
It WAS,however,a real P.I.T.A. to get the new system bled,but once I realized that I had to remove the calipers from the forks...hang them with string,tilting them stightly,and bleed them THAT way...everything works like it should,with great stopping power.B)

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29 Nov 2006 21:01 #96144 by Shoe48
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If you look at a 77650c you will see that kawasaki used the double banjo bolt , I too am in the middle of this swap on my 82 KZ750 twin, I tried to mix 4 bolt rotors with 6 bolt rotor forks , another word tried to use 750 spectra forks with my stock wire wheels 4 bolt rotors , It wouldnt work with out get some machine shop time in ,, If the axle is on the bottom of the fork use those style wheels and calipers , if the Axle is forward on the Forks use those style rotors and caliper ,, ( Later style ) ,,My 82 twin uses a special fork with the caliper mounting holes slightly forward so it will match up ,, Most forks mounting are straight not forward ,, I think Steell has the best plan get the parts from the same style of bike ..The splitter depends on what syle master Cyl you use , Brake swith mounted on the brake lever or pressure swith mounted on the lower triple tree .. add in you might have changed handle bars so now need a straight mount with a micro swicth ,, I found that the KZ550 is just what you are looking for .. :) :)

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02 Dec 2006 02:52 #96728 by fixer5000
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if you do find a splitter make sure you run down to the hardware store and get the right length bolts for it. the old ones will be too short...steve

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