KZ1000 77 with GSXR 86-87 Swingarm

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27 Jul 2006 05:49 #65101 by BioXiD
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Hi all,

Just got a GSXR 86-87 Swingarm for $20.00

can the GSXR-86-87 monoshock be installed on my kz1000 77 or i better stay with the original shocks??

Now i'm ready to get a new frontend and i'm all confused...

Would a GSXR 86-87 frontend will fit my KZ1000 77 or a ZX11 would be better???

I wanna also change the mags...which wheels are better since i wanna have a 180 wide tire back ??? GSXR 86-87 ones or ZX11 ????

There is so many post about those but most of them dosent specify the years..that's why i'm so confused

Waiting for reply

thanks guyz!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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27 Jul 2006 08:13 #65122 by solomrus
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to use the mono-shock, you'll have to fabricate some sort of upper mount for the shock, which will make it necessary to re-locate the battery, and numerous other hardware under the seat. that is the cool, but difficult way.

the easy way is to have mounts welded to the swing arm for dual shocks, and just adapt things that way. easy, less modifications to do, and gets you on the road quicker.

no one ever states years because it's really all up to what you find. it can be as fancy or as dull as you wish. most anything can be adapted to fit, using combo's of different bearings, machine work, welding, and fabrication. some are easier than others, and the kwaka stuff is generally a closer fit, followed by suzuki, yamaha, etc...

you have to go with the front end swaps to use the modern 17" wheel combo's. the stock trees/tubes are too narrow for anything like the new stuff.

just remember this: what you are looking at doing is NOT a bolt on swap. if you just want an aluminum swingarm, i'd grab a gs arm, some shocks, and go from there. if you want a kick-ass, modernized kz that rides nicely, go with what you have in mind.

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27 Jul 2006 10:45 #65166 by wireman
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hey isnt it written somewhere in the bible that tho shall not put a sportbike frontend on any 900-1000 kawasaki built between 1973-1980 except for maybe the 79-80 mkII ?or maybe that was in my abridged version :whistle: but swingarm conversions are ok.:whistle: :P

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27 Jul 2006 12:18 #65193 by z1000d
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The 86-88 GSXR wheels will be too norrow for 180's. You need to move up to 92 and newer. My 91's will only fit a 160, you could go 170 I suppose but not 180.

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27 Jul 2006 16:00 #65263 by mark1122
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Is the offset front sprocket an issue with these mods?:side:

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
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28 Jul 2006 05:08 #65400 by solomrus
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'tis not a sin, wireman, forsooth, it is a necessity!

as far as the sprocket goes, it depends on how wide a wheel/tire combo you want to run.

if you go too wide, you will start needing to worry about frame/chain clearance and some sort of outboard bearing support.

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28 Jul 2006 10:00 #65426 by wireman
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solomrus wrote:

'tis not a sin, wireman, forsooth, it is a necessity!

as far as the sprocket goes, it depends on how wide a wheel/tire combo you want to run.

if you go too wide, you will start needing to worry about frame/chain clearance and some sort of outboard bearing support.

--r

ill say a prayer for you you my son:evil: :P yeah though i walk through the shadow of the valley of the hyabusa and zx-14 ,i will fear no evil .for i know a big motor ,a turbo and nitrous shall show me the way!:evil: :whistle: :P

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28 Jul 2006 12:29 #65450 by solomrus
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wireman wrote:

ill say a prayer for you you my son:evil: :P yeah though i walk through the shadow of the valley of the hyabusa and zx-14 ,i will fear no evil .for i know a big motor ,a turbo and nitrous shall show me the way!:evil: :whistle: :P


you do realize, brother, that the swingarm of your choice(aka that massive aluminum one you got from me...) is from a gixxer? i was pretty sure i told you that ahead of time? 8^)

my bike won't be as fast as yours when i'm done, well the turbo bike might contend, but all the girls will drape on my dead-sexy sporty-bike suspended obviously sweet kz... and, please do remember, i know where joe's machine is too, and he'll take my money for a 1400 just as well as yours.

break my balls, will ya! 8^)

where'd you guys disappear to the other night? thought you were coming back?

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28 Jul 2006 13:35 #65460 by mark1122
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what is involved with a front end change ? do they just bolt on the tree?like the gsxr or zx11 or is there other options?

76 KZ, frame gusset work,1200CC.Ported by Larry Cavanaugh, 1.5mm.over intakes, Carron Pipe, ZRX12 rear end, and seat,96zx9 front end.
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Cobourg, Ont. Can.

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28 Jul 2006 16:06 #65492 by wireman
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solomrus wrote:

wireman wrote:

ill say a prayer for you you my son:evil: :P yeah though i walk through the shadow of the valley of the hyabusa and zx-14 ,i will fear no evil .for i know a big motor ,a turbo and nitrous shall show me the way!:evil: :whistle: :P


you do realize, brother, that the swingarm of your choice(aka that massive aluminum one you got from me...) is from a gixxer? i was pretty sure i told you that ahead of time? 8^)

my bike won't be as fast as yours when i'm done, well the turbo bike might contend, but all the girls will drape on my dead-sexy sporty-bike suspended obviously sweet kz... and, please do remember, i know where joe's machine is too, and he'll take my money for a 1400 just as well as yours.

break my balls, will ya! 8^)

where'd you guys disappear to the other night? thought you were coming back?

--r

my 60 yearold test pilot doesnt do crowds,had to bring him back to the house so he could drink beer!:Poh yeah i said swingarm swaps are ok,front ends?:ohmy: :P

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28 Jul 2006 19:53 #65544 by 77KZ650
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mark1122 wrote:

what is involved with a front end change ? do they just bolt on the tree?like the gsxr or zx11 or is there other options?

If the steering steems are the same length, and diameter (good luck finding that) the front end is a bolt on, if the steering stem is the same length and a different diameter, you can make it work with custom bearings, or if nothing matches, swap stems in the triples.(example=kz stem in zx triples) do a search, theres lots of good info on it in this site

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02 Aug 2006 09:15 #66650 by StreetfighterKz
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If you want, go over to the Gallery and take a look at my '78 1000. It has the '86-'88 Gsxr1100 arm, with twin shocks, on it. I'm also putting the same 'arm on my '76 900 pro-street bike. I'm going with a mono-shock setup on the '76. My advice to you is if you want a mono setup go with a 89' or newer Gsxr swingarm. The '86-'88 has goofy shock linkage thats going to be hard to work with. The '89 and newer arms have dog bones that will make setting the ride height far easier than the early Gixxers.
If you still want to go with a mono setup on the early arm let me know and we can brain storm together. Another thing to consider when you go with a mono shock is do you want a standard height bike or are you going to lower it? With the '86-'88 arm you're going to have to move the upper shock mount up to drop the ride height.

Later, Doug

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